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Anonymous wrote:By no means am I suggesting that a guy needs to be benching his body weight; or watching 8 hrs of football per weekend; or be spitting and scratching his crotch to be a real man. But having only lived on the east coast for 2 years, I am kind of shocked by how un-manly well educated white collar professional guys are in DC and NYC. Seems like everyone's hobby is watching the news (politics in DC; CNBC in NYC). They seem incapable of fixing anything - whether it's a closet door that's off its hinge or a flat tire - they are willing to call a handy man or mechanic and are ok with that guy thinking they have no idea what to do. And they seem kind of gossipy/critical about how others are living their lives. Just seems odd to me that a guy would be ok spending his weekend reading a book and criticizing how some other dude is choosing to rent a home rather than buy. I just feel like guys back home -- including drs/lawyers/med/law students were more into sports, working out, home renovation, cars etc. Is this a DC/NYC thing? I've seen it in guys I've casually dated, guys at work etc. -- all ages 25-35.

This is the only thing my husband is interested in talking about besides his job and our money. I gave up on conversation years ago. Yes, he’s from NY. I wish when I was young and in love I noticed that conversation is so boring with him. I also thing men from these parts of the country are bad conversationalists.

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Anonymous wrote:It's an upper class vs blue collar thing. They have the money to not have to do those things.

Not true. My dad's family is very old New England money and he does remodels himself, knows cars inside and out, etc. He always had an interest (although I will say, my uncles are nothing like him).

Anonymous wrote:Op, I can't speak about white collar east coast men, but I agree that manliness is irresistibly attractive. I met someone who is that rare "man of character": patient, kind, values self mastery, stands by his word, intelligent, thoughtful, considerate. He is also very fit, and seems that he can figure out how to fix most things. His hands move with real smooth skill. And on top of it, he says things like "good night, beautiful soul." Unfortunately, our lives are in very different places so I cherish his company while it lasts. I'm sure there are other beautiful men like that in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:It's an upper class vs blue collar thing. They have the money to not have to do those things.

Not true. My dad's family is very old New England money and he does remodels himself, knows cars inside and out, etc. He always had an interest (although I will say, my uncles are nothing like him).

+1 I’ve actually found it to be the opposite. The old money people I know teach their kids this stuff, make sure they know how to do it, encourage outdoor pursuits, etc. The “oh, my kids don’t need to know that the help will just do it!” screams new money.

Anonymous wrote:By no means am I suggesting that a guy needs to be benching his body weight; or watching 8 hrs of football per weekend; or be spitting and scratching his crotch to be a real man. But having only lived on the east coast for 2 years, I am kind of shocked by how un-manly well educated white collar professional guys are in DC and NYC. Seems like everyone's hobby is watching the news (politics in DC; CNBC in NYC). They seem incapable of fixing anything - whether it's a closet door that's off its hinge or a flat tire - they are willing to call a handy man or mechanic and are ok with that guy thinking they have no idea what to do. And they seem kind of gossipy/critical about how others are living their lives. Just seems odd to me that a guy would be ok spending his weekend reading a book and criticizing how some other dude is choosing to rent a home rather than buy. I just feel like guys back home -- including drs/lawyers/med/law students were more into sports, working out, home renovation, cars etc. Is this a DC/NYC thing? I've seen it in guys I've casually dated, guys at work etc. -- all ages 25-35.

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Anonymous wrote:It's an upper class vs blue collar thing. They have the money to not have to do those things.

Not true. My dad's family is very old New England money and he does remodels himself, knows cars inside and out, etc. He always had an interest (although I will say, my uncles are nothing like him).

Anonymous wrote:It's an upper class vs blue collar thing. They have the money to not have to do those things.

Anonymous wrote:It's an upper class vs blue collar thing. They have the money to not have to do those things.

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Anonymous wrote:By no means am I suggesting that a guy needs to be benching his body weight; or watching 8 hrs of football per weekend; or be spitting and scratching his crotch to be a real man. But having only lived on the east coast for 2 years, I am kind of shocked by how un-manly well educated white collar professional guys are in DC and NYC. Seems like everyone's hobby is watching the news (politics in DC; CNBC in NYC). They seem incapable of fixing anything - whether it's a closet door that's off its hinge or a flat tire - they are willing to call a handy man or mechanic and are ok with that guy thinking they have no idea what to do. And they seem kind of gossipy/critical about how others are living their lives. Just seems odd to me that a guy would be ok spending his weekend reading a book and criticizing how some other dude is choosing to rent a home rather than buy. I just feel like guys back home -- including drs/lawyers/med/law students were more into sports, working out, home renovation, cars etc. Is this a DC/NYC thing? I've seen it in guys I've casually dated, guys at work etc. -- all ages 25-35.

Yep, welcome to metro sexual hell. The women here like them that way, meek and quiet. They can control them better that way.

+10000

I like to control my men and you don't have to be a gossipy pansy in order to be controllable. Find a new excuse. I've dated very masculine, hugely attractive men who did what I said. In fact I find the more masculine a man is- genuinely masculine- the more he tends to supersede to his woman. THat's kind of one of the tenets of masculinity. It's the pansy losers who are always in power struggles with women

Touched a nerve didn't I sweetie? Thanks for proving my point.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that's bad, don't ever move to the West Coast. Manliest guy I knew was gay - he could fix anything. Everyone else was useless.

Hahahah. So true though. Lived in LA for a few months. Went on 1 date. Dude had prettier hair than I did and spent a good portion of the date talking about his hair care routine.

Lol. LA men are pathetic. Seattle men are manly though.

No they are not!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that's bad, don't ever move to the West Coast. Manliest guy I knew was gay - he could fix anything. Everyone else was useless.

Hahahah. So true though. Lived in LA for a few months. Went on 1 date. Dude had prettier hair than I did and spent a good portion of the date talking about his hair care routine.

Lol. LA men are pathetic. Seattle men are manly though.

No they are not!!!!!!!