Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:29
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
And who paays for that child in that scenario? The EFFIN GOVERNMENT!
Forget you. You are too heartless and dumb to argue with.
Yes, I admit, I've become heartless because everyone and their brother is on the dole in one form or another and the next generation that is not yet born is going to get fucked over for it.
We borrow 45 cents of every dollar the government spends, we have a debt of $170,000 for every tax payer in the country, and 70% of the federal government spending is transfer payments, thanks to idiots like you.
And what's your answer? Give away more more more. You bet I'm heartless.
That's not the answer. The answer is trimming the fat that is "Defense" spending. Let's see stats on that.
BTW no one here is advocating more spending on CHIP we are trying to preserve its existence.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:26
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
I wish. There are thousands of responsible, self-sufficient couples who would die for the chance to adopt a needy child. I wish we COULD remove children from irresponsible parents who can't take care of them. But unless the poor parents are outright abusive, we can't. Unfortunately.
Bullshit. I went through adoption. No one wanted toddlers or school aged children with health issues/drug exposure or histories of neglect or abuse. The agency in my area that deals with these children is BEGGING for people to foster, never mind adopt. You are ignorant of the issues, clearly.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:25
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If parents produce children they are responsible for taking care of the children and that includes getting a fu*king job and saying that the children should not be allowed to suffer lets the parents off and just compounds the problem.
I know specific instances where parents are able to work but don't do so because they can collect welfare and all one does is to foster a dependency type of society. Your response is the reason why conservatives accuse liberals of just fostering a dependency society.
And if that child's parents don't get a job? And that child is ill? What then? Let them die im the gutter?
I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus. I am not worried about "fostering dependency." I am worried about turning a blind eye to defenseless people in need - ESPECIALLY children. People with attitudes like yours make me SICK. Nothing more tham a dirty selfish money changer.
I know I am supposed to try to love all people but you and your ilk are a bridge too far for me. I cannot fathom how you can type this garbage with sincerity, much less believe it
I came to this country with virtually nothing and over the decades I worked multiple jobs during the first several years because I had a family to feed and clothe and provide housing. Not once did I think that the government was obligated to take care of my children because I was not able to make enough money. Over the years, I did well for myself and put three children through college - two through medical school and one did her MBA. They are all self-sufficient as are we (their parents).
There were years when our Sunday treat for lunch was eating at McDonalds because that was all that I could afford.
My story is not unique - there are millions of others who do the same thing and then there are millions who are encouraged by the likes you and your ilk to create a society where people don't want to fend for themselves and expect the government to take care of them and their children. You people are destroying this country and you don't even realize it.
BTW, I don't care for Trump at all - I think he is uncouth. But if Republicans will do a serious job of welfare reform without hurting the poor who really need the help, they will have my vote.
There is a difference between those who are genuinely in need - and they should be helped - and those who just expect others to provide for them, and they can go to hell as far as I am concerned.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:24
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But he's good with the tax plan benefiting the rich passive investor (as opposed to the rich working person).
Apparently the quote during debate was:
“[L]et me tell you something: we’re going to do CHIP. There’s no question about it in my mind. It’s got to be done the right way. But we, the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore.”
Hatch went on to condemn the idea of “more and more spending.” After praising the “terrific job” CHIP has done for families who need help, he immediately added, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”
Why don't we propose legislation to put all those CHIP kids to work in coal mines? And we could have a special provision for the coal mine owners that they pay no tax at all!
MAGA
Wrong. The accurate version is:
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:24
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
And who paays for that child in that scenario? The EFFIN GOVERNMENT!
Forget you. You are too heartless and dumb to argue with.
Yes, I admit, I've become heartless because everyone and their brother is on the dole in one form or another and the next generation that is not yet born is going to get fucked over for it.
We borrow 45 cents of every dollar the government spends, we have a debt of $170,000 for every tax payer in the country, and 70% of the federal government spending is transfer payments, thanks to idiots like you.
And what's your answer? Give away more more more. You bet I'm heartless. [/quote
It's a dirty mouthed conservative who used the f word!! Report! Report!
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:23
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But he's good with the tax plan benefiting the rich passive investor (as opposed to the rich working person).
Apparently the quote during debate was:
“[L]et me tell you something: we’re going to do CHIP. There’s no question about it in my mind. It’s got to be done the right way. But we, the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore.”
Hatch went on to condemn the idea of “more and more spending.” After praising the “terrific job” CHIP has done for families who need help, he immediately added, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”
Why don't we propose legislation to put all those CHIP kids to work in coal mines? And we could have a special provision for the coal mine owners that they pay no tax at all!
Why would anyone disagree with what is shown in bold?
That's not what CHIP is. That's my disagreement with what Hatch just said.
CHIP is children's health insurance. It's not helping people who won't lift a finger.
Don't they get Medicaid? We have three insurance programs to give care to poor and low income (free if they can't afford it): Medicaid, Obamacare, and CHIP. Do we really need all three? If people aren't poor enough for Medicaid, then they get free care through Obamacare. We don't need CHIP, too.
CHIP IS a Medicaid program. Jesus Christ, if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about just STFU.
Another filthy-mouth liberal. You complain that conservatives aren't kind, and then you talk like that? Can't you speak with common decency when you are making a plea for common decency?
We had Medicaid LONG before CHIP. It should should have been abolished when Obamacare was enacted. How many duplicate ways do we need to provide care for the poor? It's like that WaPo article with food.....the poor family had concurrent options. They could eat the shelter meals taxpayers were provIding, or they could use their food stamps the taxpayers are providing, or they could eat at a restaurant with the welfare taxpayers are providing. All at the same time.
P.S. Use the f-word in violation of the forum rules again, and you're being reported.
Ooh, you're going to report me. I care.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:22
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
And who paays for that child in that scenario? The EFFIN GOVERNMENT!
Forget you. You are too heartless and dumb to argue with.
Yes, I admit, I've become heartless because everyone and their brother is on the dole in one form or another and the next generation that is not yet born is going to get fucked over for it.
We borrow 45 cents of every dollar the government spends, we have a debt of $170,000 for every tax payer in the country, and 70% of the federal government spending is transfer payments, thanks to idiots like you.
And what's your answer? Give away more more more. You bet I'm heartless.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:21
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But he's good with the tax plan benefiting the rich passive investor (as opposed to the rich working person).
Apparently the quote during debate was:
“[L]et me tell you something: we’re going to do CHIP. There’s no question about it in my mind. It’s got to be done the right way. But we, the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore.”
Hatch went on to condemn the idea of “more and more spending.” After praising the “terrific job” CHIP has done for families who need help, he immediately added, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”
Why don't we propose legislation to put all those CHIP kids to work in coal mines? And we could have a special provision for the coal mine owners that they pay no tax at all!
Why would anyone disagree with what is shown in bold?
That's not what CHIP is. That's my disagreement with what Hatch just said.
CHIP is children's health insurance. It's not helping people who won't lift a finger.
Yeah, those slacker kids should be helping themselves rather than not lifting a finger. We need to put them to work down in Trump's coal mines. #MAGA
/sarcasm.... seriously, WTF is wrong with Hatch and Republicans?
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:21
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
You all want to take gutters away now, too! The streets are going to get messy in a hurry.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:21
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
I wish. There are thousands of responsible, self-sufficient couples who would die for the chance to adopt a needy child. I wish we COULD remove children from irresponsible parents who can't take care of them. But unless the poor parents are outright abusive, we can't. Unfortunately.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:21
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:But he's good with the tax plan benefiting the rich passive investor (as opposed to the rich working person).
Apparently the quote during debate was:
“[L]et me tell you something: we’re going to do CHIP. There’s no question about it in my mind. It’s got to be done the right way. But we, the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore.”
Hatch went on to condemn the idea of “more and more spending.” After praising the “terrific job” CHIP has done for families who need help, he immediately added, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”
Why don't we propose legislation to put all those CHIP kids to work in coal mines? And we could have a special provision for the coal mine owners that they pay no tax at all!
MAGA
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:15
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But he's good with the tax plan benefiting the rich passive investor (as opposed to the rich working person).
Apparently the quote during debate was:
“[L]et me tell you something: we’re going to do CHIP. There’s no question about it in my mind. It’s got to be done the right way. But we, the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore.”
Hatch went on to condemn the idea of “more and more spending.” After praising the “terrific job” CHIP has done for families who need help, he immediately added, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves – won’t lift a finger – and expect the federal government to do everything.”
Why don't we propose legislation to put all those CHIP kids to work in coal mines? And we could have a special provision for the coal mine owners that they pay no tax at all!
Why would anyone disagree with what is shown in bold?
That's not what CHIP is. That's my disagreement with what Hatch just said.
CHIP is children's health insurance. It's not helping people who won't lift a finger.
Don't they get Medicaid? We have three insurance programs to give care to poor and low income (free if they can't afford it): Medicaid, Obamacare, and CHIP. Do we really need all three? If people aren't poor enough for Medicaid, then they get free care through Obamacare. We don't need CHIP, too.
CHIP IS a Medicaid program. Jesus Christ, if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about just STFU.
Another filthy-mouth liberal. You complain that conservatives aren't kind, and then you talk like that? Can't you speak with common decency when you are making a plea for common decency?
We had Medicaid LONG before CHIP. It should should have been abolished when Obamacare was enacted. How many duplicate ways do we need to provide care for the poor? It's like that WaPo article with food.....the poor family had concurrent options. They could eat the shelter meals taxpayers were provIding, or they could use their food stamps the taxpayers are providing, or they could eat at a restaurant with the welfare taxpayers are providing. All at the same time.
P.S. Use the f-word in violation of the forum rules again, and you're being reported.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:14
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
And who paays for that child in that scenario? The EFFIN GOVERNMENT!
Forget you. You are too heartless and dumb to argue with.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:12
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
Anonymous wrote:You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
To die in streets?
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:11
Subject: Orrin Hatch is tired of funding CHIP
You don't let the kid "die in the gutter".
You take it away.
You take it away.