Leave her nose alone. It's a craze and serves no purpose except possibly getting in the way when giving head.

Two friends of mine in HS had nose jobs at 16. One girl was from South America and had a very Peruvian look, which she replaced with a tiny, American button nose. The other girl was Egyptian and changed her wider nose for a narrow one. She really regretted it deeply, though my friend from South America never did.

Anonymous wrote:The only person I ever knew who got theirs done, had to have it done 3 times.

The first time he blamed the surgeon, the second time he blamed the guy who elbowed him and the third time it no longer fits his face because he keeps gaining and losing weight.

Yeah, the only 2 people who have admitted it to me had to have theirs redone too and have snoring/health issues despite using "top" surgeons.

I love a real nose. Nothing worse than a small or little piggy nose on a guy. Give me a man or woman with character and a strong personality.

The only person I ever knew who got theirs done, had to have it done 3 times.

The first time he blamed the surgeon, the second time he blamed the guy who elbowed him and the third time it no longer fits his face because he keeps gaining and losing weight.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.

Some people who have braces need them. Many people who have braces have them for entirely cosmetic reasons. My children are among those - their teeth were slightly out of alignment, and if we were poorer, or lived in another part of the country, they wouldn't have had braces. Here? Braces.

There is a big difference between gently moving teeth into alignment which can have health implications if untreated and having a surgical procedure to look more white which is what it really is. Would you feel the same if a black child wanted to lighten their skin?

I have freckles and I've never really thought about them. My daughter inherited my freckles and she has all sorts of creams and stuff to cover them up or lighten them. Girls and women are taught from birth that they are physically defective and in need of fixing.

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

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Define "perfect nose"

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Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.

Some people who have braces need them. Many people who have braces have them for entirely cosmetic reasons. My children are among those - their teeth were slightly out of alignment, and if we were poorer, or lived in another part of the country, they wouldn't have had braces. Here? Braces.

There is a big difference between gently moving teeth into alignment which can have health implications if untreated and having a surgical procedure to look more white which is what it really is. Would you feel the same if a black child wanted to lighten their skin?

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

Sure she is. She's getting breast augmentation, or whatever people do to make a non-flat butt. She's doing things to make her lips larger or her eye-lashes more noticeable. She's bleaching her teeth and spending hours on her hair and makeup.

Some of these things are minor and we don't even think about it. Others we criticize. Many of these women and girls are spending large amounts of time monitoring their eating and exercise to try and fit within a window of acceptable body types. This affects everyone.

I don't think it's any one persons responsibility to be the champion of a particular feature. If OPs daughter hates her nose, and OP has no reason to think it's a symptom of a larger issue, then why on earth should it fall to OPs daughter to thwart all the messages women get blasted with? There's nothing wrong with doing things for yourself even if they conform to an intrusive, abusive culture. OPs daughter has to live with her nose.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.

I think that may be equivalent to a nose job for a deviated septum or some other medical issue. My kid has really crooked tooth that are bunched and overlap. He's going to get braces because I know that he will hate those teeth, but it's cosmetic.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.

Some people who have braces need them. Many people who have braces have them for entirely cosmetic reasons. My children are among those - their teeth were slightly out of alignment, and if we were poorer, or lived in another part of the country, they wouldn't have had braces. Here? Braces.

Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

Anonymous wrote:Summer going into senior year was the standard age in my hometown in NJ where there was a huge jewish and italian population. My sicilian nose was "altered" that summer as well. Best decision ever. Gave me confidence going into my final year and college.

That is so sad.

Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.