Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
That bolded makes me laugh. It only matters what type and style of training it is (more of what we saw last Tuesday night). The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Those 9-12 year olds (05-07) would be much better served using a lot of that time on their own.
Loudoun and Arlington DA are playing the same tired way that keeps us getting our a** kicked on the International stage.
LOL no. The reason why the US loses is because they do not have world class athletes. There is a lot of hype with the USMNT. Pulisic is a good player, but he would not make a Bundesliga all star team or play on the the German National team. The rest of the national team are basically minor league players.
The major soccer leagues/national soccer powers all start with great athlete who are great soccer players and cutting from there. The US will continue to underperform because the US does not have world class athletes playing soccer. The best athletes in the US choose other sports. Why would you pick soccer? The clubs here do not promise a path to the premier league but maybe just maybe a college scholarship..LOL! (And you have to pay the club). So you have to leave the country at 13 to play soccer or you can play basketball, football, hockey, track, etc and stay at home. Oh and everyone will know you...because you are a star athlete/big shot in high school( and they pay you or your family).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
Is your DS on a DA team? I think we all could benefit from a parent's POV about how the DA at younger ages is structured and executed, anywhere from subs, training times, locations, match day management, cliques, social aspects, etc. Not asking for the dirt, just the details about DA and your DS team dynamics. No need to mention club, age group would help in providing context.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
That bolded makes me laugh. It only matters what type and style of training it is (more of what we saw last Tuesday night). The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Those 9-12 year olds (05-07) would be much better served using a lot of that time on their own.
Loudoun and Arlington DA are playing the same tired way that keeps us getting our a** kicked on the International stage.
Anonymous wrote:^^that is a common expression and apropos for describing US soccer.
That quote is from Albert Einstein, btw.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
That bolded makes me laugh. It only matters what type and style of training it is (more of what we saw last Tuesday night). The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Those 9-12 year olds (05-07) would be much better served using a lot of that time on their own.
Loudoun and Arlington DA are playing the same tired way that keeps us getting our a** kicked on the International stage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
That bolded makes me laugh. It only matters what type and style of training it is (more of what we saw last Tuesday night). The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Those 9-12 year olds (05-07) would be much better served using a lot of that time on their own.
Loudoun and Arlington DA are playing the same tired way that keeps us getting our a** kicked on the International stage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Looking at the Club coaches that are doing the training for those DA boys, I wouldn't get my hopes up. It is the same regular old Club travel coaches. Nothing special is going on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Can't wait to see how the 2005,2006,2007 DA boys grow up, they were were the first ones to be eligible for the U12 DA and could potentially have similar hours of training at 17-18 years of age as their counterparts in European academies. I think then we will be able to see at U20 how many players destined for high-level of college and professional teams continue and then how many of those do break in to the USMNT in their mid-twenties. This experiment will take a while, but if the DA doesn't seem to be bearing fruit by 2030 WC, then it would be safe to say it didn't work. I know, 2030, but what most people don't realize(including myself) is development takes a long time and only flowers for a few years. A great footballer can look at an average of 8-10 years of playing time with 2-3 years in their late twenties as their prime. This excludes the legends of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Henry, Mbappe, Dembele, Pulisic who could potentially have a 15-20 year career, which would mean you would have to start in your late teens as a professional.
Anonymous wrote:^^ His parents did everything to SHIELD him from the idiot American soccer coaches. He did not play in multiple tournaments or for multiple teams. They guarded his development. So unlike the teams around here traveling out of town for some 'elite' tournament every other weekend and wasting so many nights a week---up to 4---in training that is doing NOTHING for their individual development. They could use more time on their own.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:how come the US can produce top women's teams but not men's in the current system?
Please read the entire thread before asking the same question over and over again.
US Women started playing soccer decades before all other Countries. They got their *ss handed to them at the last Olympics and lost. As these other Nations (the real soccer nations) catch-up, the US women are going to suffer the same fate because they rely on the same shitty physical style as the USMNT.
not according to SI https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/06/09/womens-soccer-world-cup-history-evolution#
In the 20th century, women began to play more regularly. During the First World War in Britain, as women were drawn into munitions factories and into the professions, they emerged on the field as well. Female matches took center stage between 1917 and 1921, with teams playing in front of large crowds—usually between 25,000 and 55,000 people. Players like Lily Parr became household names. On Boxing Day, 1917, the first England vs. Ireland international took place in Belfast with representative female players from each country. An England versus Scotland match took place in 1918, and England played France in 1920.
Gradually, however, a whole new generation of young women begin playing football more extensively than ever before. In 1970, a Women’s World Cup was organized independently in Italy, and in 1971 a second took place in Mexico City. Matches were played in the 100,000-person capacity Estadio Azteca, which was filled to capacity for some of the games. In the United States, the 1972 Title IX legislation was a game-changer, spurring on the development of women’s soccer programs at universities, which became the foundation for successful national teams.
For chrissakes, would you be REAL for a second. None of those countries had legitimate women's soccer programs. English, Mexicans, Italians, Argentinians felt Futbol was for males. There was not a large contingent playing. Flash to 1975, when I started playing soccer in this area and there were tons of young girls playing. Travel programs were huge. WAGs was started. It was a hotbed of women's soccer and there were National Championships in the early 80s. It was in HS and all over. You can Wikipedia all you like, but the history is not there. They might have had some matches, but NO there were not organized leagues to any extent like was happening in the US in the same time period.
There was even a special reiterating my point during the last Women's World Cup and with actual interviews of women from many top soccer countries that stated how much flak they took and how male-dominated the sport was even in the last decade. I assumed you watched since you are such a huge women's soccer fan.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:how come the US can produce top women's teams but not men's in the current system?
Please read the entire thread before asking the same question over and over again.
US Women started playing soccer decades before all other Countries. They got their *ss handed to them at the last Olympics and lost. As these other Nations (the real soccer nations) catch-up, the US women are going to suffer the same fate because they rely on the same shitty physical style as the USMNT.
not according to SI https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/06/09/womens-soccer-world-cup-history-evolution#
In the 20th century, women began to play more regularly. During the First World War in Britain, as women were drawn into munitions factories and into the professions, they emerged on the field as well. Female matches took center stage between 1917 and 1921, with teams playing in front of large crowds—usually between 25,000 and 55,000 people. Players like Lily Parr became household names. On Boxing Day, 1917, the first England vs. Ireland international took place in Belfast with representative female players from each country. An England versus Scotland match took place in 1918, and England played France in 1920.
Gradually, however, a whole new generation of young women begin playing football more extensively than ever before. In 1970, a Women’s World Cup was organized independently in Italy, and in 1971 a second took place in Mexico City. Matches were played in the 100,000-person capacity Estadio Azteca, which was filled to capacity for some of the games. In the United States, the 1972 Title IX legislation was a game-changer, spurring on the development of women’s soccer programs at universities, which became the foundation for successful national teams.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:how come the US can produce top women's teams but not men's in the current system?
Please read the entire thread before asking the same question over and over again.
US Women started playing soccer decades before all other Countries. They got their *ss handed to them at the last Olympics and lost. As these other Nations (the real soccer nations) catch-up, the US women are going to suffer the same fate because they rely on the same shitty physical style as the USMNT.
not according to SI https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/06/09/womens-soccer-world-cup-history-evolution#
In the 20th century, women began to play more regularly. During the First World War in Britain, as women were drawn into munitions factories and into the professions, they emerged on the field as well. Female matches took center stage between 1917 and 1921, with teams playing in front of large crowds—usually between 25,000 and 55,000 people. Players like Lily Parr became household names. On Boxing Day, 1917, the first England vs. Ireland international took place in Belfast with representative female players from each country. An England versus Scotland match took place in 1918, and England played France in 1920.
Gradually, however, a whole new generation of young women begin playing football more extensively than ever before. In 1970, a Women’s World Cup was organized independently in Italy, and in 1971 a second took place in Mexico City. Matches were played in the 100,000-person capacity Estadio Azteca, which was filled to capacity for some of the games. In the United States, the 1972 Title IX legislation was a game-changer, spurring on the development of women’s soccer programs at universities, which became the foundation for successful national teams.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:how come the US can produce top women's teams but not men's in the current system?
Please read the entire thread before asking the same question over and over again.
US Women started playing soccer decades before all other Countries. They got their *ss handed to them at the last Olympics and lost. As these other Nations (the real soccer nations) catch-up, the US women are going to suffer the same fate because they rely on the same shitty physical style as the USMNT.