Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:

My daughter works in a dental office. The Spanish speaking patients are all paid for by DSHS. Not only the dental is free, they are now receiving free orthodontia work all paid for by the hardworking taxpayer. She regularly sees $5000-7000 dental bills for a single patient, NOT a family. This is just the tip of iceberg...saunter on over to the food stamp or aid to children or welfare offices. The bills are huge and I suspect larger than this article cites. Sickening, really and a huge magnet for more to cross the border.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757

Wow. Just wow.

^^^ they will be ordinary US citizens who have lived abroad (just like I am and I assume you are)

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Anonymous wrote:Excuse me but all President's children get that benefit. We are also paying for non US citizens illegally present in the USA plus anchor babies. If I knew of many families with tourist visa relatives flying in for birth then how many did you ever meet?

Before actually meeting these people we were never even aware of the issue. It used to be Mexican border crossers until a few decades ago and now is an industry.

Who cares if rich people around the world fly here to have their babies, give them US citizenship, and then fly back to wherever they came from? This doesn't hurt you in any way. It may benefit you, if the rich kid ever decides to move to the US. Or if he or she stays in her country, then it doesn't affect you at all.

This post just bothers me......No big deal, huh?
PP, tell us how many countries around the world allow this type of flouting of laws.

It's not flouting the laws. It's legal.

I also don't see why anyone would be upset by a US citizen living in China or Russia or anywhere. This thread is about undocumented kids receiving services from the US government. US citizens living in other countries are not costing taxpayers any money. If they decide to move here, when they are children or adults, then they will be ordinary US citizens who have lived abroad (and I assume you are). I just don't see why people are angry about this.

Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:

My daughter works in a dental office. The Spanish speaking patients are all paid for by DSHS. Not only the dental is free, they are now receiving free orthodontia work all paid for by the hardworking taxpayer. She regularly sees $5000-7000 dental bills for a single patient, NOT a family. This is just the tip of iceberg...saunter on over to the food stamp or aid to children or welfare offices. The bills are huge and I suspect larger than this article cites. Sickening, really and a huge magnet for more to cross the border.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757

Following the links in the article leads to the entire 72 page report with 134 footnotes documenting the sources for the numbers. Sources range from fed /state governments to news reports to a report listing states with no sales taxes. State and local governments 88 billion, fed 45 billion.

Some state and local governments had little or no impact from Obama's undocumented minor surge brought about by DACA. Others had major impact. That is a microcosm of the entire issue. Assuming those hit with high numbers of these minors are also the states and counties with most illegals from those countries then it is safe to say that many politicians DO NOT have illegal immigration as a main issue in their home turf- does not effect their voters.

And who can complain? MS 13 rampant, schools overburdened, anchors result in housing subsidies. Say anything and you're called racist.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

While they are American Citizens and here to stay, they should have never been and more are born each day to parents that should not be in this country. This is why we need a big beautiful wall, enforce harsh penalties for companies that employ illegals, and jail those who overstay Visas. Once the incentive to come is extinguished, the remaining problem can then be managed.

What does this have anything to do with illegals and braces? Maybe you should stay on topic.

The intent of birthright citizenship was not anchor babies as practiced today including birthright tourism and border crossing births-come in from Mexico-birth and return. I knew people who flew over from Asia, ME, Africa to give birth. Relatives of friends of mine or my kids. One family from the ME had 1 daughter [3 US births], 4 cousins on multiple tourist visa visits. A friend here legally from Mexico has had 5 family members-no one is poor.

If you want to end birthright citizenship and anchor babies, get started on convening a constitutional convention. Otherwise, STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:Excuse me but all President's children get that benefit. We are also paying for non US citizens illegally present in the USA plus anchor babies. If I knew of many families with tourist visa relatives flying in for birth then how many did you ever meet?

Before actually meeting these people we were never even aware of the issue. It used to be Mexican border crossers until a few decades ago and now is an industry.

Who cares if rich people around the world fly here to have their babies, give them US citizenship, and then fly back to wherever they came from? This doesn't hurt you in any way. It may benefit you, if the rich kid ever decides to move to the US. Or if he or she stays in her country, then it doesn't affect you at all.

This post just bothers me......No big deal, huh?
PP, tell us how many countries around the world allow this type of flouting of laws.

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that the cost of people here illegal far surpasses what “they contribute.”

If they are indeed getting taxpayer funded orthodontia, that is so wrong.

In fact, I don’t think taxpayers should fund orthodontia for ANYONE, legal or not, unless it is medically necessary. For cosmetic purposes? Hell, no.

They don't. This is nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:Excuse me but all President's children get that benefit. We are also paying for non US citizens illegally present in the USA plus anchor babies. If I knew of many families with tourist visa relatives flying in for birth then how many did you ever meet?

Before actually meeting these people we were never even aware of the issue. It used to be Mexican border crossers until a few decades ago and now is an industry.

Who cares if rich people around the world fly here to have their babies, give them US citizenship, and then fly back to wherever they came from? This doesn't hurt you in any way. It may benefit you, if the rich kid ever decides to move to the US. Or if he or she stays in her country, then it doesn't affect you at all.

Tucker Carlson? LOL

I have no doubt that the cost of people here illegal far surpasses what “they contribute.”

If they are indeed getting taxpayer funded orthodontia, that is so wrong.

In fact, I don’t think taxpayers should fund orthodontia for ANYONE, legal or not, unless it is medically necessary. For cosmetic purposes? Hell, no.

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Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:

My daughter works in a dental office. The Spanish speaking patients are all paid for by DSHS. Not only the dental is free, they are now receiving free orthodontia work all paid for by the hardworking taxpayer. She regularly sees $5000-7000 dental bills for a single patient, NOT a family. This is just the tip of iceberg...saunter on over to the food stamp or aid to children or welfare offices. The bills are huge and I suspect larger than this article cites. Sickening, really and a huge magnet for more to cross the border.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757

This sounds completely unbelievable. I'd be utterly shocked it this was true.

I work in education and MOST of the undocumented teens have braces on their teeth. Someone's paying for it...

I am speechless.

Anonymous wrote:Tucker Carlson opened his show with this. 11 million undocumented immigrants cost US taxpayers $135 billion per year in medical, education and law enforcement -- they only pay $19 billion in taxes per year.

"Low skill immigrants $36k per year ... negative federal tax liability ... so privatizing profits to the top, while commonizing costs on the taxpayer. Average Americans can hurt with the costs ... it's a complete scam."

Tucker Carlson opened his show with this. 11 million undocumented immigrants cost US taxpayers $135 billion per year in medical, education and law enforcement -- they only pay $19 billion in taxes per year.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

While they are American Citizens and here to stay, they should have never been and more are born each day to parents that should not be in this country. This is why we need a big beautiful wall, enforce harsh penalties for companies that employ illegals, and jail those who overstay Visas. Once the incentive to come is extinguished, the remaining problem can then be managed.

Why not just end birthright citizenship?

In Montgomery County, the Care for Kids program covers dental care for undocumented children. They do not cover braces, though.