Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University of Chicago was so not hot in the 80s, it was an easy admit. Brown was hot.
Brown was hot precisely because it was the easiest Ivy to get into as long you were full-pay. My college counselor (from a public high school in the NY suburbs) was quoted in the NYT as saying, "If you're daddy can pay and your grades are decent, you're in."
Amy Carter and some other celebrity kids went there in the 80s.....that's why it was hot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:University of Chicago was so not hot in the 80s, it was an easy admit. Brown was hot.
Brown was hot precisely because it was the easiest Ivy to get into as long you were full-pay. My college counselor (from a public high school in the NY suburbs) was quoted in the NYT as saying, "If you're daddy can pay and your grades are decent, you're in."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is Columbia the C in HYPSC?
Probably Chicago but that's wishful thinking. MIT is usually the 5th.
Actually I'd say Columbia or MIT. Columbia's acceptance rates are now lower than P or Y, and until WWII Columbia was actually more highly regarded than either of those.
Anonymous wrote:I would say the biggest movers from then vs now are Vanderbilt, Northeastern, Northwestern, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Harvey Mudd, Tufts, WashU, and USC. None of these schools were considered "elite"- heck, Mudd wasn't even founded until 1955.
The schools which have fallen in reputation are Oberlin, Kenyon, Reed, the Seven Sisters, Brandeis, Lawrence U, Knox, Beloit, and Occidental. Brandeis used to attract students comparably as strong as UChicago and Stanford. Reed's US News perception seriously affected it- it used to have the highest SATs of any college, period, but now it's ranked about 41 for SAT/ACT averages. The Seven Sisters all became considerably less selective after top universities and elite LACs went co-ed in the 1970s; some have fallen greatly in rankings like Bryn Mawr (top 10 LAC back then, currently ranked 31). Occidental used to be considered the best LAC on the West Coast- now all 5 Claremonts outrank it on the US News list. Note that all these schools are fantastic schools, but they just don't have the glamour they used to.
Anonymous wrote:Stanford was NOT hot a few decades ago. It was much easier to get in.
Anonymous wrote:University of Chicago was so not hot in the 80s, it was an easy admit. Brown was hot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is Columbia the C in HYPSC?
Probably Chicago but that's wishful thinking. MIT is usually the 5th.
Anonymous wrote:Graduated from high school in a medium size town in western NY state and this is what was and remains hot: our community college. Anyone who graduated/s in the top quarter attends for free. And that is where by far the vast majority of my classmates (in a class of 450) went and where most of the students still go for the first two years. Even the valedictorians.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven't changed much. Ivies, seven sisters, little ivies, Grinnell, Carlton, Reed, Oberlin, MIT, Stanford, Claremont Colleges
I grew up out west in the 70's and never heard of the Claremont Schools until more recently. Stanford and Berkeley were the stars out west. The seven sisters? Not so popular anymore. They are still excellent but not many college kids want single sex education anymore.
I never heard of the Claremont schools till I started reading this forum. Still not sure which colleges are included, except for Harvey Mudd, and that's a name you don't forget after hearing it.
If you're still not sure, you could solve that issue by googling and finding out. Not that hard to do.[/quote]
But why would I care enough to do that?
If you want to be willfully ignorant towards some of the best undergraduate schools in the US, you do you! They aren't going to be bothered in the slightest by what you think.