Anonymous wrote:Crew shortages.

This. Crew is leaving town.

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Anonymous wrote:IT WAS UNSAFE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FLIGHT CREW TO FLY THE PLANE.

But WHY was there no crew? This is not a difficult question! It's not dangerous to be in Florida YET!

Gimme a break. Don't you think that some of the crew lives in Florida and would need to be preparing their own homes for the coming hurricane? Or maybe they need to take care of pets and family members and evacuate themselves? Do you expect them to just carry on as usual and then stay up all night tomorrow so they can try and board up houses, safeguard possessions, and/or leave the area with the hurricane on their tail? Please. Try and put yourself in their shoes.

So why did the airlines add all the extra flights in the first place if they were only going to cancel them? Were many other employers in FL closed Wednesday?

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Anonymous wrote:They move the planes and crew out of the storm's path. They don't want either in harms way. This always happens, and it shouldn't be a big surprise. They move planes out ahead of big snow storms too.

+1

Ok. But yesterday was still 3 days before any Irma wind would hit MIA. Next.

Evacuations started Wednesday. Crew has left the area with their families, or they need to prepare for the storm. This always happen. You're not special enough to risk everyone's life and property. It's not like evacuations are a 10 min drive.

Yep! It took a relative nearly 14 hours do do a 3.5 hour trip.

He was posting updates along the way since so much of his travel was spent sitting in traffic, not moving. Plenty of pictures of cars in the median who'd run out of gas or overheated. Stories of people with extra cans of gas charging $50 for a can to those who'd run out.

I suspect the PP has never seen an evacuation, and has no idea how it actually works. In theory, you can hop in your car and go. The reality of it that you and thousands are doing it at the same time. At some point, when people have all gone and picked up relatives and things are as stocked as they can be, they will make all lanes northbound to move people more quickly. It will still be a 10 hour trip.

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Anonymous wrote:They move the planes and crew out of the storm's path. They don't want either in harms way. This always happens, and it shouldn't be a big surprise. They move planes out ahead of big snow storms too.

+1

Ok. But yesterday was still 3 days before any Irma wind would hit MIA. Next.

Evacuations started Wednesday. Crew has left the area with their families, or they need to prepare for the storm. This always happen. You're not special enough to risk everyone's life and property. It's not like evacuations are a 10 min drive.

Yep! It took a relative nearly 14 hours do do a 3.5 hour trip.

He was posting updates along the way since so much of his travel was spent sitting in traffic, not moving. Plenty of pictures of cars in the median who'd run out of gas or overheated. Stories of people with extra cans of gas charging $50 for a can to those who'd run out.

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Anonymous wrote:IT WAS UNSAFE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FLIGHT CREW TO FLY THE PLANE.

But WHY was there no crew? This is not a difficult question! It's not dangerous to be in Florida YET!

Because there are almost no flights going INTO FL. So they have no fresh crew members coming IN to fly OUT.

Flying a plane isn't like driving a taxi. You don't pick up some passengers, take them to Dulles, pick up passengers coming out of Dulles and take them home.

How it works: a plane from CA flies to FL. Everyone, including the crew, deplanes. The crew, if they've hit their limit of hours they can fly, must then rest a certain number of hours before they can fly again. If they haven't hit their hours, they still may come off the plane because the plane they're scheduled to take next isn't that plane.

It's not like the pilot and crew fly from Chicago into FL, pick up more people and fly back to Chicago. It happens, sure, but not if they've hit their in-air flight hours for that day.

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Anonymous wrote:IT WAS UNSAFE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FLIGHT CREW TO FLY THE PLANE.

But WHY was there no crew? This is not a difficult question! It's not dangerous to be in Florida YET!

Gimme a break. Don't you think that some of the crew lives in Florida and would need to be preparing their own homes for the coming hurricane? Or maybe they need to take care of pets and family members and evacuate themselves? Do you expect them to just carry on as usual and then stay up all night tomorrow so they can try and board up houses, safeguard possessions, and/or leave the area with the hurricane on their tail? Please. Try and put yourself in their shoes.

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Anonymous wrote:They move the planes and crew out of the storm's path. They don't want either in harms way. This always happens, and it shouldn't be a big surprise. They move planes out ahead of big snow storms too.

+1

Ok. But yesterday was still 3 days before any Irma wind would hit MIA. Next.

Evacuations started Wednesday. Crew has left the area with their families, or they need to prepare for the storm. This always happen. You're not special enough to risk everyone's life and property. It's not like evacuations are a 10 min drive.

PP is partly why i stopped flying. People don't see pilots as service personnel most of the time, but in cases like this, we're lower than they treat janitors.

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Anonymous wrote:They move the planes and crew out of the storm's path. They don't want either in harms way. This always happens, and it shouldn't be a big surprise. They move planes out ahead of big snow storms too.

+1

Ok. But yesterday was still 3 days before any Irma wind would hit MIA. Next.

Evacuations started Wednesday. Crew has left the area with their families, or they need to prepare for the storm. This always happen. You're not special enough to risk everyone's life and property. It's not like evacuations are a 10 min drive.

Anonymous wrote:IT WAS UNSAFE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FLIGHT CREW TO FLY THE PLANE.

But WHY was there no crew? This is not a difficult question! It's not dangerous to be in Florida YET!

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Anonymous wrote:Crew shortages.

But why? Is everyone calling in "sick?"

Very possible that it's about the strict guidelines that have to be followed as to their hours in the seat and time off.

This.

Even if they have crew in Miami (and other FL locations) ready and willing to fly, regulations prevent it.

My friend had a flight booked into Miami yesterday evening that was cancelled. She was flying down to pack up and bring back her elderly aunt today. Now her cousin in GA is driving in to pick her up.

But the flights yesterday were the usual schedule. How does a crew shortage appear on half the flights?

You're right! It's a conspiracy!

You just don't get it, do you? When shit starts hitting the fan, it causes a ripple effect. Longer days, busier airports, delays, all time out flight crews, then they need required rest. Then flights are delayed or cancelled at point A. So the plane doesn't make it to point B on time. Which makes the plane late to Florida, point C. Then maybe it gets cancelled.

It's not complicated.

Anonymous wrote:It's a Miranda situation if people are looking to fly out Saturday night/Sunday morning. Flying Thursday is not the same as flying when Irma is upon us.

This.

The airline cares more about keeping its crew and planes safe, than risking it for idiots who chose to wait until the last minute.

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Anonymous wrote:Crew shortages.

But why? Is everyone calling in "sick?"

Very possible that it's about the strict guidelines that have to be followed as to their hours in the seat and time off.

This.

Even if they have crew in Miami (and other FL locations) ready and willing to fly, regulations prevent it.

My friend had a flight booked into Miami yesterday evening that was cancelled. She was flying down to pack up and bring back her elderly aunt today. Now her cousin in GA is driving in to pick her up.

But the flights yesterday were the usual schedule. How does a crew shortage appear on half the flights?

It's a Miranda situation if people are looking to fly out Saturday night/Sunday morning. Flying Thursday is not the same as flying when Irma is upon us.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crew shortages.

But why? Is everyone calling in "sick?"

Very possible that it's about the strict guidelines that have to be followed as to their hours in the seat and time off.

This.

Even if they have crew in Miami (and other FL locations) ready and willing to fly, regulations prevent it.

My friend had a flight booked into Miami yesterday evening that was cancelled. She was flying down to pack up and bring back her elderly aunt today. Now her cousin in GA is driving in to pick her up.

Anonymous wrote:Oh yes, I can't remember. How did Miranda priestly get home?

I think she missed it, and blamed her servant, I mean assistant, for missing the twins' concert. It sets up
The get an advanced unpublished copy of the next Harry Potter book. So many Mirandas on DCUM. I think Miranda/Mirando may need to replace Larla/Larlo.