Anonymous
Post 08/17/2017 20:43     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Statistician / data scientist. Jobs always available, and the hours are flexible and stable. I am a fed, but worked private sector too. A statistician who can also talk to people and write, will do well anywhere. Not typically > $200K well, but $100-$150K is easily doable with a BA/BS in math, statistics, econ, etc. MS is even better. And no one particularly cares from where as long as you have the degree.

http://www.amstat.org/ASA/Your-Career/Salary-Information.aspx
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2017 09:50     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Pay for EAs depends on the level of whom you support....CFO,COO,CEO or partner types prolly six figures or close to it....to start I'm thinking $50K+....I was at $70K when I decided to get a finance degree and change professions.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 22:05     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


Yeah, but you have to be a nurse. I love the idea of this, except the touching gross people part.


+ 1

Blood, urine, feces, vomit, gore. No thank you.


OP of the post you responded to - I'm a restaurant manager and have a pretty worthless degree. If having a stable career with growth potential means dealing with bodily fluids, so be it. As a mother, I already do...and I don't get paid for it!
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 22:02     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are no safe jobs anymore in the age of artificial intelligence.


Are robots going to be giving speech therapy? Are robots going to be cutting our hair? I don't think so.


Yes machine will be better vs human. Especially in the medical field. You really do not understand where the technology is going.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 19:10     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one sees this thread as pretty sexist and reactionary? Women have always been consigned the roles of teacher or nurse, the most acceptable profession for college-educated women since the 1940s. Has nothing really changed?


Well, these are union jobs. The question was about job stability, not breaking the glass ceiling.


What I'm saying is that it's sad that things have not evolved so that women have more career choices with stability. Nothing wrong with nursing or teaching, but it's 2017. We should be able to be IT professionals, lawyers, scientists, etc. with some sort of work-life, non-ageist work balance by now.

--A 50-something journalist with a fairly stable job...considering the implosion of a lot of the profession


You sound really naïveté fir a fifty something. It's fucking hard for women who want to have kids and it sucks in a lot of fields. Finance, tech, big law. Not sure what it's like to be a female scientist.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 19:07     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


Yeah, but you have to be a nurse. I love the idea of this, except the touching gross people part.


+ 1

Blood, urine, feces, vomit, gore. No thank you.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 18:09     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:I spent 10 years as an Executive Assistant, and now in my 10th year as a finance professional, first in private and now federal. That's 20 years without a layoff and increasing pay and at one point decent bonuses.



I'm listening. What's the pay like for an EA? What sort of finance professional? How much schooling did you need?

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 17:51     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.



Second career nurse here. Graduated from an accelerated BSN program at age 39; have now been a nurse for six years. Started as a med-surg nurse at a local hospital making ~$50k; six years later, I am up to $101k as a nurse manager. Has been a good return on my investment but there's no denying that it's been a challenging journey.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 17:34     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.

Yeah, but you have to be a nurse. I love the idea of this, except the touching gross people part.

I would be a nurse in the nursery or NICU, but no adults, please.

OT, but there was a poster in a thread on "Expectant Moms" talking about how the changes in staffing and move to baby-friendly hospitals meant that nursing staff got consolidated such that post-partum nurses were also caring for healthy newborns and vice-versa. The newborn nurses mostly left the field, or remain and provide bad care to new moms.

This is true. Many acute care hospitals are moving toward the "a nurse is a nurse" mindset and have no qualms about reassigning nurses trained in one specialty to a unit with a similar, but different speciality as a cost-saving measure (think L&D or well-baby nurses to a postpartum floor, ICU nurses to a stepdown floor). It's called floating, it sucks, and it's a reason nurses leave.

When I worked at WHC, they did it too often. One reason I left...
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 17:22     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
I spent 10 years as an Executive Assistant, and now in my 10th year as a finance professional, first in private and now federal. That's 20 years without a layoff and increasing pay and at one point decent bonuses.

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:56     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Nurse poster again with 18 years of experience.

I currently work in case management and am job searching.
I posted my resume on indeed last week and within 7 days I have 3 job offers, each around $90K. Several of these are entirely remote.
Two wanted to pay be $80K but I negotiated for $90K.
Which is amazing, great, fabulous.
But I've been making $90K a year for the past 10 years. However, my value to an organization caps at about $90k.
My skill set is not worth $150K and never will be. I don't bring $150K worth of value to a organization and my presence doesn't save them $150K.
Again, nursing is a great career but it's not a lucrative one and doesn't bring exponential increases salary increases over time.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:47     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Here from glassdoor in Washington DC:

The average salary for a Registered Nurse is $63,070. Salaries estimates based on 448 salaries submitted anonymously to Glassdoor by Registered Nurse employees in Washington, DC.

The average salary for a Nurse Practitioner is $97,540. Salaries estimates based on 19 salaries submitted anonymously to Glassdoor by Nurse Practitioner employees in Washington, DC.

Again, nursing is a great career. But it serves no one to pretend that nurses make a ton of money. They just don't. They can always find jobs and they can work in many flexible positions but they aren't paid well especially in this area. And there simply isn't much income growth over time.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:44     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Mommy. Retirement = death.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:43     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.


+1

- RN with 10 years experience and a MSN who works at the bedside because it's better for finances and work/life balance


I know NPs in the DC area making 120 k with less than 10 years experience. No you aren't going to make 300k, but acting like 120 is unheard of isn't true. Perhaps the wo of you built your careers wrong.


If you read my post, you''ll see that I agreed that NPs can make 120K. Some do in sub-specialty medicine fields (like working in dermatology or for an orthopedic surgeon. NPs aren't going to make that in primary care or pediatrics.
And it's not like you're going to make $120K as an NP year one and then $200K in year 10. Your income is going to be relatively flat over time. Physicians don't make more year-over-year either. These aren't fields that give EXPONENTIAL salary increases at all.

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:20     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are no safe jobs anymore in the age of artificial intelligence.


Are robots going to be giving speech therapy? Are robots going to be cutting our hair? I don't think so.


You might want to brush up on AI trends.

https://www.speechbuddy.com/blog/news/no-danger-here-will-robinson-robot-therapists-shows-promise-in-speech-therapy/

http://www.nbc26.com/news/national/a-robot-could-cut-your-hair-in-the-future

https://venturebeat.com/2017/07/23/what-ai-enhanced-healthcare-could-look-like-in-5-years/