Anonymous
08/13/2017 08:01
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Educational Consultant here - seriously, you are not right about this. It will blow over. I have actually pulled all of the data on this. Everyone said the same thing would happen with the Rolling Stone article - it didn't. Or Hannah Graham - it didn't. I could go on. Nothing is making a difference.. and these people are not pro-rape (the applications deadline occurred during the time when everyone thought the article was true) or pro-kidnapping students.. it's just that their desire for a top-name school at a low price supercedes their concern about any of this.
1. The UVA story was revealed to be a hoax before it had a chance to have an impact.
2. What just happened at UVA is at least as bad as what went down at Mizzou. Their freshman enrollment dropped by 1/3. I'm not saying that will happen at UVA, but don't delude yourself. To most people, UVA is academically closer to Mizzou than it is to UC Berkeley.
Mizzou? I have no comment on the heirarchy of schools, and I don't know about your facts, but I suggest Mizzou's problems are more closely related to funding issues and budget cuts than to student unrest.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:41
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
The President of UVA needs to get on national TV and condemn what happened. She needs to explain why the demonstrators were allowed on the campus. She needs to do the morning talk shows, etc., maybe with the mayor of Charlottesville. Otherwise, the school's reputation will suffer nationally.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:37
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
I would not send my minority child to uva or any other school which breeds so many white supremacists.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:31
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Educational Consultant here - seriously, you are not right about this. It will blow over. I have actually pulled all of the data on this. Everyone said the same thing would happen with the Rolling Stone article - it didn't. Or Hannah Graham - it didn't. I could go on. Nothing is making a difference.. and these people are not pro-rape (the applications deadline occurred during the time when everyone thought the article was true) or pro-kidnapping students.. it's just that their desire for a top-name school at a low price supercedes their concern about any of this.
1. The UVA story was revealed to be a hoax before it had a chance to have an impact.
2. What just happened at UVA is at least as bad as what went down at Mizzou. Their freshman enrollment dropped by 1/3. I'm not saying that will happen at UVA, but don't delude yourself. To most people, UVA is academically closer to Mizzou than it is to UC Berkeley.
The difference is, the Missouri incident was done by students and teachers at the school. The UVA incident was a bunch of crazy neo-nazis that came to Charlottesville.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:29
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Wharton is far from being 'Trumpish.' As a matter of fact, we walked through Wharton when DC was applying to UPENN and of all the famous alum photos, Trump's is not there. There is no love loss between Trump and Wharton students.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I posted this information in another thread but worth posting here also.
The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as [b]UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect [b]of the the entire student body.
Oh, oh, please don't stain my al mater, Wharton, with the low intelligence quotient of the illiterate Donald Trump who never was admitted at the outset but transferred in later from Podunk community university after big Daddy bubba greased the path with his money.
Wharton is very trumpish. No school in the Ivy League has a higher concentration of trumpian thought and mannerisms
https://medium.com/@whartonopenletter/you-do-not-represent-us-an-open-letter-to-donald-trump-94cf73ce11d8
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:20
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:I posted this information in another thread but worth posting here also.
The organizer of the demonstration is a white nationalist, Jason Kessler. He graduated from the University of Virginia and lives in Charlottesville. Unfortunately, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Granted, one rotten apple does not reflect the entire student body, just as [b]UPenn graduate Donald Trump does not reflect the intellect [b]of the the entire student body.
Oh, oh, please don't stain my al mater, Wharton, with the low intelligence quotient of the illiterate Donald Trump who never was admitted at the outset but transferred in later from Podunk community university after big Daddy bubba greased the path with his money.
Wharton is very trumpish. No school in the Ivy League has a higher concentration of trumpian thought and mannerisms
Anonymous
08/13/2017 07:14
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:I think some of you are eliding the elephant in the room.
UVA is a southern school. There was a big demonstration by white supremacists. No, the white supremacists weren't directly related to UVA, but there is already a stigma against southern schools to begin with. People who want to send their kids to a top school, out of state, tend to be very image conscious and the harsh reality is that being a southern school that just had a giant big supremacist demonstration next door is an off-putting combination many parochial northerners.
By being in the Bay Area, UC Berkeley is largely immune to this "guilt by association." It's not fair, but it is what it is. If anything, UCB is perceived as being the "liberal elite." But the people that are offended by that tend to not be academically inclined anyway, so it doesn't hurt them.
There is a reason why even the best southern schools - duke, vandy , rice, Emory - are markedly easier to get into than the top northern/western schools - hypsm
That said, the southern schools are less discriminatory against asian applicants funnily enough.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 01:03
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought the prime organizer was an UVA student?
On both sides?
"On both sides"? That's why UVA sucks.
Anonymous
08/13/2017 01:00
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought the prime organizer was an UVA student?
On both sides?
On the WHITE SUPREMACIST side. You know, the one with the terrorist.
Anonymous
08/12/2017 23:25
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
No OP. Southerners love white supremacy
Anonymous
08/12/2017 23:22
Subject: Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
I think some of you are eliding the elephant in the room.
UVA is a southern school. There was a big demonstration by white supremacists. No, the white supremacists weren't directly related to UVA, but there is already a stigma against southern schools to begin with. People who want to send their kids to a top school, out of state, tend to be very image conscious and the harsh reality is that being a southern school that just had a giant big supremacist demonstration next door is an off-putting combination many parochial northerners.
By being in the Bay Area, UC Berkeley is largely immune to this "guilt by association." It's not fair, but it is what it is. If anything, UCB is perceived as being the "liberal elite." But the people that are offended by that tend to not be academically inclined anyway, so it doesn't hurt them.
UVA is a southern school. There was a big demonstration by white supremacists. No, the white supremacists weren't directly related to UVA, but there is already a stigma against southern schools to begin with. People who want to send their kids to a top school, out of state, tend to be very image conscious and the harsh reality is that being a southern school that just had a giant big supremacist demonstration next door is an off-putting combination many parochial northerners.
By being in the Bay Area, UC Berkeley is largely immune to this "guilt by association." It's not fair, but it is what it is. If anything, UCB is perceived as being the "liberal elite." But the people that are offended by that tend to not be academically inclined anyway, so it doesn't hurt them.
Anonymous
08/12/2017 22:57
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm out of state...I had always viewed UVA as one of the top publics in the nation--up there with Michigan, Berkeley, etc. However, this kind of incident would make me think twice about sending my kids there (assuming they get in and have other choices). There's no comparison between anti-war protests, environmental issues, etc at Berkeley and neo-nazis. Posters who think that those are comparable probably don't understand the mindset of the demographic who wants their kids to attend top schools.
But at the schools with the other protests, it's the STUDENTS doing the protesting. The protests in Charlottesville have nothing to do with the students or the University.
This. 100%.
Anonymous
08/12/2017 22:24
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
What a deeply creepy post this is at this horrific time.
Anonymous
08/12/2017 21:54
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
Anonymous wrote:I thought the prime organizer was an UVA student?
On both sides?
Anonymous
08/12/2017 21:51
Subject: Re:Will riots/demonstrations affect UVA reputation/applications?
I thought the prime organizer was an UVA student?