Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself.

I went to GGW, did a search on Potomac Yards Slums and it returned "no results"

Whether you are misremembering, or lying, I know not.

But there is good reason for the internet rule that he who claims something is the one who must provide the citation.

You have presented no argument as to why PY will fail, merely an appeal to authority. But an authority you can't even cite. And which may not exist, or may not say what you claim, or may have already been rebutted on GGW.

No worries. I recall and said what I read, and it was under the "comment" section. I'd gladly provide the exact link if I could.

They get thousands of comments.

Can you tell me why PY is doomed to failure, but Clarendon, Navy Yard, Eisenhower East, Crystal City, Bethesda, to name a few, are not?

My recollection is twofold: a) the shear volume of proposed density itself in PY (probably included North and South Potomac Yards) with the type (business class) of big boxes and street after street of homes and b) Route 1 not able to be widened in major areas due to homes abruptly adjacent to it with chronic traffic backups discouraging drivers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself.

I went to GGW, did a search on Potomac Yards Slums and it returned "no results"

Whether you are misremembering, or lying, I know not.

But there is good reason for the internet rule that he who claims something is the one who must provide the citation.

You have presented no argument as to why PY will fail, merely an appeal to authority. But an authority you can't even cite. And which may not exist, or may not say what you claim, or may have already been rebutted on GGW.

No worries. I recall and said what I read, and it was under the "comment" section. I'd gladly provide the exact link if I could.

They get thousands of comments.

Can you tell me why PY is doomed to failure, but Clarendon, Navy Yard, Eisenhower East, Crystal City, Bethesda, to name a few, are not?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself.

I went to GGW, did a search on Potomac Yards Slums and it returned "no results"

Whether you are misremembering, or lying, I know not.

But there is good reason for the internet rule that he who claims something is the one who must provide the citation.

You have presented no argument as to why PY will fail, merely an appeal to authority. But an authority you can't even cite. And which may not exist, or may not say what you claim, or may have already been rebutted on GGW.

No worries. I recall and said what I read, and it was under the "comment" section. I'd gladly provide the exact link if I could.

Anyone living in Vienna within walking radius to Maple Ave: We are looking to move to Vienna soon and wanting Madison HS for our kids.
1. Any thoughts on how living above Maple or below Maple might be different?
2. Any thoughts on living east or west of Park St.?
3. Is is safe and easy for teens to go out on foot/bike to meet friends for Starbucks, basketball in park, etc.?
Trying to hone in one areas that would be walkable to stores, coffee, etc. not just for parents but kids too. Any advice appreciated!

Anonymous wrote:
I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself.

I went to GGW, did a search on Potomac Yards Slums and it returned "no results"

Whether you are misremembering, or lying, I know not.

But there is good reason for the internet rule that he who claims something is the one who must provide the citation.

You have presented no argument as to why PY will fail, merely an appeal to authority. But an authority you can't even cite. And which may not exist, or may not say what you claim, or may have already been rebutted on GGW.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand 123 in Vienna, so much traffic.
Love Del Ray (schools not too good though). Falls Church City is cute

Del Ray is fine. Good main street with local small businesses. It's a shame that you only need to go a few blocks before you're back in suburban hell (potomac yard center).

PY north is hardly suburban hell - it is a single big box shopping center. And its going to be replaced by a dense, mixed use, urban town center (with a metro station!) The big boxes were always intended as a place holder.

That said, as others point out, it is not a great commute to Tysons

Land use discussion of PY North on Greater Greater Washington in the recent past already has referenced it as a new potential Mid Atlantic coast slum in decades due to lack of adequate roads and density of row homes. Kind of like Baltimore in many ways.

link please? The above makes no sense. PY North will be mostly multifamily, THs are in PY South. There is going to be a full street grid in PY, as well as a BRT line and a metro station (and its pretty bikeable as well). And GGW generally does not associate density with slums. Are you talking about one of the NIMBYs who trolls GGW?

BTW, doesn't sound like you know much about Baltimore either.

I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself. I read the comment in the recent past under "comments", made by a land use specialist who apparently has deep concern about the build out of Potomac Yards. He/she wasn't alone in concern about it's potential for bad urban density sprawl. As to Baltimore, wrong again pp. Did my training there, return there, know it well.

Again, link please. Urban density is NOT sprawl. And it does not lead to slums.

As to Baltimore, it A. has many successful dense neighborhoods B. Its slums are a legacy of racism, industrial decline, and disinvestment. There are also slums across the country that suffered from the same things at much lower densities than Baltimore. So again, you may have spent time in Baltimore, but you do not appear familiar with its history or the issues that have impacted its development.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand 123 in Vienna, so much traffic.
Love Del Ray (schools not too good though). Falls Church City is cute

Del Ray is fine. Good main street with local small businesses. It's a shame that you only need to go a few blocks before you're back in suburban hell (potomac yard center).

PY north is hardly suburban hell - it is a single big box shopping center. And its going to be replaced by a dense, mixed use, urban town center (with a metro station!) The big boxes were always intended as a place holder.

That said, as others point out, it is not a great commute to Tysons

Land use discussion of PY North on Greater Greater Washington in the recent past already has referenced it as a new potential Mid Atlantic coast slum in decades due to lack of adequate roads and density of row homes. Kind of like Baltimore in many ways.

link please? The above makes no sense. PY North will be mostly multifamily, THs are in PY South. There is going to be a full street grid in PY, as well as a BRT line and a metro station (and its pretty bikeable as well). And GGW generally does not associate density with slums. Are you talking about one of the NIMBYs who trolls GGW?

BTW, doesn't sound like you know much about Baltimore either.

I am no troll, and you'll have to find it yourself. I read the comment in the recent past under "comments", made by a land use specialist who apparently has deep concern about the build out of Potomac Yards. He/she wasn't alone in concern about it's potential for bad urban density sprawl. As to Baltimore, wrong again pp. Did my training there, return there, know it well.

Anonymous wrote:In the next few years Tysons will be very walkable.

I would say in five years or so, parts of Tysons will be walkable. Probably won't reach say, Ballston level of walkability for more than a decade at least.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand 123 in Vienna, so much traffic.
Love Del Ray (schools not too good though). Falls Church City is cute

Del Ray is fine. Good main street with local small businesses. It's a shame that you only need to go a few blocks before you're back in suburban hell (potomac yard center).

PY north is hardly suburban hell - it is a single big box shopping center. And its going to be replaced by a dense, mixed use, urban town center (with a metro station!) The big boxes were always intended as a place holder.

That said, as others point out, it is not a great commute to Tysons

Land use discussion of PY North on Greater Greater Washington in the recent past already has referenced it as a new potential Mid Atlantic coast slum in decades due to lack of adequate roads and density of row homes. Kind of like Baltimore in many ways.

link please? The above makes no sense. PY North will be mostly multifamily, THs are in PY South. There is going to be a full street grid in PY, as well as a BRT line and a metro station (and its pretty bikeable as well). And GGW generally does not associate density with slums. Are you talking about one of the NIMBYs who trolls GGW?

BTW, doesn't sound like you know much about Baltimore either.

Anonymous wrote:In the next few years Tysons will be very walkable.

Anonymous wrote:In the next few years Tysons will be very walkable.

You have a long time horizon. I hope you're still in your 20s or 30s.

In the next few years Tysons will be very walkable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand 123 in Vienna, so much traffic.
Love Del Ray (schools not too good though). Falls Church City is cute

Del Ray is fine. Good main street with local small businesses. It's a shame that you only need to go a few blocks before you're back in suburban hell (potomac yard center).

PY north is hardly suburban hell - it is a single big box shopping center. And its going to be replaced by a dense, mixed use, urban town center (with a metro station!) The big boxes were always intended as a place holder.

That said, as others point out, it is not a great commute to Tysons

Land use discussion of PY North on Greater Greater Washington in the recent past already has referenced it as a new potential Mid Atlantic coast slum in decades due to lack of adequate roads and density of row homes. Kind of like Baltimore in many ways.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't stand 123 in Vienna, so much traffic.
Love Del Ray (schools not too good though). Falls Church City is cute

Del Ray is fine. Good main street with local small businesses. It's a shame that you only need to go a few blocks before you're back in suburban hell (potomac yard center).

PY north is hardly suburban hell - it is a single big box shopping center. And its going to be replaced by a dense, mixed use, urban town center (with a metro station!) The big boxes were always intended as a place holder.

That said, as others point out, it is not a great commute to Tysons

If you are open to THs, there are a few near your target price listed in FCC.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/202-Governors-Ct-22046/home/12032934

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/130-Rees-Pl-22046/home/12034479

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/405-Hillwood-Ave-22046/home/101388143

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/101-Rees-Pl-22046/home/12034472