Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 03:16     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Because education is free in my home country and I have been a TA for my masters and PhD programs. It's absurd how much Americans pay for college and education here.

Oh...OP did his PHD at a non-US school. This makes more sense now....

Where are you getting this from? Pretty much no one in the US pays for their PhD if it's in a STEM field. They either have a teaching assistantship (TA) like OP to pay for their education or a research assistantship (RA). Some people get fellowships as well. If you don't know this, then you really shouldn't be providing career advice to OP since you have no understanding of his situation.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 02:22     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


How do you have no students loans?

Surely there are other statistics jobs in FL? Why aren't you applying for them?

By the way, do you have any job offers at all beside SF and FL?


Because education is free in my home country and I have been a TA for my masters and PhD programs. It's absurd how much Americans pay for college and education here.


Oh...OP did his PHD at a non-US school. This makes more sense now....
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:28     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You and your girlfriend sound like a total train wreck honestly.

She's applying for jobs on your behalf????

You have perhaps the most marketable phd degree yet you have to ask dcum of all places for career advice????

You thought it was a good life choice to reproduce with someone you don't love enough to marry???

I hope you all get your shit together and grow the f up soon cause damn



You sound like the crazy one here. This is a forum for job advice. That's why I am here. I am also not from the US originally, so things can be confusing for me. You need to calm down. I'm not sure what your problem is. My personal life has nothing to do with this. In my country, it's fine to have children without being married. Maybe you could travel to Europe and enlighten yourself a little.


weren't you from India or Pakistan before?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:12     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


How do you have no students loans?

Surely there are other statistics jobs in FL? Why aren't you applying for them?

By the way, do you have any job offers at all beside SF and FL?


Because education is free in my home country and I have been a TA for my masters and PhD programs. It's absurd how much Americans pay for college and education here.


I meant to write health insurance. Health insurance is a huge expense for us right now. I got into the program and it was shocking how much insurance is and it doesn't cover much. 5k is a lot for a grad student. My university makes it mandatory for PhD students.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:06     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


How do you have no students loans?

Surely there are other statistics jobs in FL? Why aren't you applying for them?

By the way, do you have any job offers at all beside SF and FL?


Because education is free in my home country and I have been a TA for my masters and PhD programs. It's absurd how much Americans pay for college and education here.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:04     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


PhD programs and academia can be extremely disruptive to couples lives. I harbored a lot of resentment towards my husband when we were going through this years ago.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:03     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


How do you have no students loans?

Surely there are other statistics jobs in FL? Why aren't you applying for them?

By the way, do you have any job offers at all beside SF and FL?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 01:00     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.


My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.

Redwood City will not help your relationship then. Honestly, life is multi-faceted, and I don't think a narrow focus on career ultimately makes people happy. But the FL job doesn't sound like what you want, and neither does the CA one. Keep looking...odds are that you'll find something better from either a lifestyle or salary perspective.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:58     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised someone with that much education thinks 150k in the bay area is worth taking. People with BA degrees get job offers for that much in CA. They are both lowballing you. You will be miserable on 150k in cali.

TBH I’d say no to both of them and keep looking.

BioStats type positions can pay less, because there is such a glut of life science PhDs.

That said, OP, you can probably earn a similar salary in pharma elsewhere that pays better. Bay Area is an odd beast, and I wouldn't move here without a really compelling reason to do so (e.g. family or really narrow sector with no options elsewhere etc).
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:57     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:50     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:48     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised someone with that much education thinks 150k in the bay area is worth taking. People with BA degrees get job offers for that much in CA. They are both lowballing you. You will be miserable on 150k in cali.

TBH I’d say no to both of them and keep looking.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:44     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
I'm surprised someone with that much education thinks 150k in the bay area is worth taking. People with BA degrees get job offers for that much in CA. They are both lowballing you. You will be miserable on 150k in cali.

TBH I’d say no to both of them and keep looking.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:37     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:STAY AWAY FROM CA!

I work for an IT company based in Palo Alto. They opened a Reston, VA office. The second I got a chance, I got a transfer and I moved my ass as fast as possible out of the bay area. Despite making 240K/yr is was impossible to raise a family comfortably. Everything is expensive, housing, childcare., TAXES, everything! It is so hard to get ahead. Many people were clamoring to head East. Yea, much of CA looks like paradise, but there is an undercurrent of hell, like running on a financial hamster wheel and getting nowhere.

I LOVE living in Reston. I'm 10min from my job (and sometimes even bike there!), my kids go to a great public school, we are saving, we have a nice home, we are not suffocated by congestion, and our lifestyle is so much healthier.

I'd move back to the bay area for no less than 500k/yr. That kind of COL was a terrible way to try to raise kids.


OP here: I have heard this from a few of my IT friends who took jobs in CA after grad school. Many of them didn't have a choice because they are not citizens. It's funny you love Reston because my family lives there. It feels congested compared to where we live now.


I guess it's perspective. If you think Reston is congested, take the job in CA and come back and update me. The fact that i can bike anywhere i need to go, including my high paying job and can actually afford it is a dream come true. I will never again set foot in thr state of CA as a resident. The taxes alone are outrageous. nope nope nope.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 00:31     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:You and your girlfriend sound like a total train wreck honestly.

She's applying for jobs on your behalf????

You have perhaps the most marketable phd degree yet you have to ask dcum of all places for career advice????

You thought it was a good life choice to reproduce with someone you don't love enough to marry???

I hope you all get your shit together and grow the f up soon cause damn



You sound like the crazy one here. This is a forum for job advice. That's why I am here. I am also not from the US originally, so things can be confusing for me. You need to calm down. I'm not sure what your problem is. My personal life has nothing to do with this. In my country, it's fine to have children without being married. Maybe you could travel to Europe and enlighten yourself a little.