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Anonymous wrote:I'd have left 61 or 62 total. That's 15% and that is what I grew up with and that's fair to me. I refuse to get suckered into the higher tip percentages. The food and drinks are also a lot more expensive than they were years ago so don't give me that crap about cost of living justifying paying 20 or 25% tips over 15% tips.

They should get rid of tipping completely. Just pay the staff a standard wage. We now live overseas where there is a minimal tip culture and if one does exist it's around 5% or rounding off the bill and no one bats an eye.

I understand your point, but it's the waitstaff that you're hurting...not the restaurant that gets away with paying less. If you don't like tipping, don't go out to eat.

+1. There's nothing noble about being a cheapskate. I'm guessing PP never worked in a service job. The system does suck, but it's not the waitstaff' fault.

My standard is, bad service 15%, normal service 20%, good service 25%, all after tax. My feeling is that $1-2 extra in tip makes virtually no difference to me, but a lot more difference to the person receiving the tip. We go out once or twice a week. An extra $100-300 worth of tips a year is worth it for people who worth below minimum wage.

For good service, I would have left $14. If we were splitting evening, I'd suggest $22 per person ($13 tip).

If there is someone who I know is a light tipper who is picking up the tab, I'll try one of these:
"Thanks for picking up the check. Allow me to leave the tip."
"Oh, are you leaving cash? Can I put it on my card and take the cash? I need the points."
I'll head to the rest room and look for the server to palm some extra cash and tell him how much I appreciated his service tonight.

$17 if the service was exceptional, because i like to round to an even number and its a nice gesture.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe your friend was confused or tipsy from the drinks and couldn't get his math straight... You did the right thing.

I hope they didn't drive home.

Anonymous wrote:I'd have left 61 or 62 total. That's 15% and that is what I grew up with and that's fair to me. I refuse to get suckered into the higher tip percentages. The food and drinks are also a lot more expensive than they were years ago so don't give me that crap about cost of living justifying paying 20 or 25% tips over 15% tips.

They should get rid of tipping completely. Just pay the staff a standard wage. We now live overseas where there is a minimal tip culture and if one does exist it's around 5% or rounding off the bill and no one bats an eye.

I understand your point, but it's the waitstaff that you're hurting...not the restaurant that gets away with paying less. If you don't like tipping, don't go out to eat.

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Maybe your friend was confused or tipsy from the drinks and couldn't get his math straight... You did the right thing.

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I'd have left 61 or 62 total. That's 15% and that is what I grew up with and that's fair to me. I refuse to get suckered into the higher tip percentages. The food and drinks are also a lot more expensive than they were years ago so don't give me that crap about cost of living justifying paying 20 or 25% tips over 15% tips.

They should get rid of tipping completely. Just pay the staff a standard wage. We now live overseas where there is a minimal tip culture and if one does exist it's around 5% or rounding off the bill and no one bats an eye.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the person whose turn it was to pay this time gave $7.00. I saw the cash sticking out of the bill and realized it was too low, so when the person paying got up and went to use the bathroom before we left I stuffed some more money inside the leather folder. Just wanted to see if my instinct was right because I felt kind of weird about overstepping someone else's decision on that. But I did not want to the server to get less of a tip then they deserved!!

This happened in Friends when Ross went out with Rachel and her father

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Anonymous wrote:I bet your cheap friend was also the one in the group who made the most money.

And drank the most wine and ate the most off the small plates. And suggested the place to begin with.

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