Anonymous wrote:It always took me a half dozen dates before I would even consider, let alone sleep with a guy. I knew my DH for three years before we ever had a date and we were good friends. On our first real date I slept with him which I'm pretty sure surprised him. We've been happily married a very long time and continue to have a great sex life.

Anonymous wrote:It just seems that you barely know each other on the 3rd date. Would any warm body do?

Anonymous wrote:When I was single, my magic number was 12 dates before sex. And they have to be actual dates.

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"Special"? Are you fcking stupid? Guys want to get laid, or they want a girlfriend with whom they can do that. As long as she isn't a sex worker, previous history isn't that important. What is she up for doing now? That's important.

Stop hating other women so much, and stop thinking in terms of what men should want, instead of what we do want.

Anonymous wrote:
I think both you and your friends are making a lot of assumptions, and frankly both are ignorant. When a guy is into a girl, he is into her, and doesn't give a damn about numbers, dates etc.

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It's not. Guys like the pps are pathetic man babies on some red pill B.S. I did not slip with my husband within the time frame mention, and he still pursued me. The sex is awesome, frequent, and we're very happy, and I'm 32.

Anonymous wrote:Female here (married, so not asking for myself, just curious). In my circle of friends, a guy has just started dating a woman. While talking about her with us, the guys agreed that it's a bit concerning that she has invited him over to her place because that's slutty, but she hasn't yet slept with (or even kissed) him which is a very good sign. General consensus is that any girl who would sleep with a guy within the first few dates isn't dating material, and that ideally they should wait anywhere form a few weeks to a few months.

Now, maybe my logic is flawed, but to me it seems like if you will only date women who can go without sex for several weeks, you end up with a girlfriend or wife who can go without sex for several weeks. And surprise, most of these guys I know who are with "good girls" are also unhappy in sexless LTR/marriages.

So I'm trying to understand the appeal of a woman who really isn't that into sex. To me, if you want an exciting sex life while married, you should go for women who are eager for it, rather than the mythical Madonna-like woman who has zero interest in men until you come along. Not saying that women who are sleeping around with multiple people are ideal (I wouldn't date a man like that), but if the chemistry and attraction are there, what's wrong with a woman who wants to enjoy sex early on? Why does that automatically exclude a woman from being taken seriously?

Anonymous wrote:I was a "good girl" and most men hated it. Definitely not a feature and limited my dating life. On the plus side, I married a super nice guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Men like good girls to marry and pass on their DNA (have kids with them). This is biological conditioning because they do not want to raise other men's kids. As for plain hooking up? They want girls who are willing to have sex with them sooner rather than later.

If a man finds a suitable woman to marry he will appreciate her being a good girl. Most men are not looking to get married though before they are settled in their career and in finances so they will not continue to date someone who will not have sex with them after a few dates.

+1 for both paragraphs.

Anonymous wrote:Men like good girls to marry and pass on their DNA (have kids with them). This is biological conditioning because they do not want to raise other men's kids. As for plain hooking up? They want girls who are willing to have sex with them sooner rather than later.

If a man finds a suitable woman to marry he will appreciate her being a good girl. Most men are not looking to get married though before they are settled in their career and in finances so they will not continue to date someone who will not have sex with them after a few dates.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you're using logic to understand attraction and emotions that are not logical. People like the chase and the challenges. It's the same reason a lot of women are attracted to bad boys. Logic says they won't make stable partners, but damn they're hot and we want to "save" them.
When we start thinking more deeply about finding an actual partner, more sensible considerations enter the mix, but sometimes logic doesn't win.

This is an interesting take and makes sense to me. In both cases, it's about the chase.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who would take a girl out more than three times without sex. Many no more than two.

Anonymous wrote:To men, dating a good girl is a lot like fishing. There is nothing better than getting one on the line, having it put up a good fight and then brining it on board. Where's the sport in instantly landing one unless you have an immediate need to eat.