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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but if this article was about a Black family in an urban area in, say Chicago or Atlanta and they were pulling in $2k a month in "disability," plus food stamps, people would be ready to riot talking about "welfare queens" and people cheating the system.

Why did the crops rot in the fields in Georgia when they cracked down on illegal immigration?

Sorry didn't mean to reply to you eas replying to PP about "no wonder people are mad about illegal immigration." And I agree. Non- black/brown people get to be poor, lazy and dysfunctional and a leech on the system but sympathetic.

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Well, but she seems to be a pretty high level DS person if she functions like a 14 year old she could probably work a menial job for money. That would actually pay more than a disability check.

Even 40 hours a week at minimum wage (and she'd be unlikely to find 40 hours a week) would only earn her some $15,000 a year which is below the threshold for poverty.

But disabled people often work for far less than minimum wage.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids. The parents sound like losers who mooch the system that was intended to help those in real need.

One of the parents has Down syndrome. If people with Down syndrome don't meet the criteria of people with disabilities, for whom the system was intended, I'm not sure who does.

Ok where is the other parent? There is NO MENTIION of a father in any of this. These kids did not just pop out of thin air.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but if this article was about a Black family in an urban area in, say Chicago or Atlanta and they were pulling in $2k a month in "disability," plus food stamps, people would be ready to riot talking about "welfare queens" and people cheating the system.

Why did the crops rot in the fields in Georgia when they cracked down on illegal immigration?

I have a lot of compassion for this family. I wonder if the woman with Down syndrome had access to birth control and sex education? If I were in charge of trying to turn this situation around for similar families, I'd make family planning clinics available for free, with free taxi rides there and back.

The grandma might have been able to hold a minimum wage desk job. But 40 hours at minimum wage wouldn't pay her much more than the $12,000 a year she gets from disability insurance. And without her at home caring for her adult daughter the daughter would have to enter some kind of social services program herself, probably.

The article states that the twins received disability benefits from birth because they were preterm. The other children in the story were not getting SSI disability benefits and it didn't say that they ever did -- it said that the twins were the first in the family to lose their benefits.

To get benefits from SSI for disability as a child, you need to meet a listing condition AND be in a family with minimal resources and income.

This is a benefit that lifts a struggling family from desperate poverty into regular poverty, basically.

Conditions that meet a listing for disability for SSI for children are listed here:

https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/ChildhoodListings.htm

The listing for autism is here:

https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/112.00-MentalDisorders-Childhood.htm#112_10

Again, in order to qualify for the approximately $700/month disability benefit, a family needs to be very low income.

Anonymous wrote:Why would a kid with any of those disorders (autism, ADHD, etc) get disability checks to begin with? There are supposed to be school-based resources for dealing with those issues and I'm confused as to what about the twins ever qualified.

The article says that the twins qualified for disability benefits at birth because they were low birthweight/preterm.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df

Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats

All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .

The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .

This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.

you are a horrible person with no understanding of parents or children with disabilities.

Thanks but I have one who is severely disabled. I see people whose kids have very mild issues getting therapies and the most school programs catered to their kids, horseback riding, government money for classes outside of school - the list is endless. If you people were more honest about what your family is receiving you'd probably be less contemptuous of others.

Wow. I have a dc who was placed by FCPS in a special-ed only school and I have never met a family who gets free horseback riding or free outside-of-school therapies.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df

Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats

All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .

The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .

This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.

you are a horrible person with no understanding of parents or children with disabilities.

Thanks but I have one who is severely disabled. I see people whose kids have very mild issues getting therapies and the most school programs catered to their kids, horseback riding, government money for classes outside of school - the list is endless. If you people were more honest about what your family is receiving you'd probably be less contemptuous of others.

No, the government is not paying for rich kids to take horseback riding lessons. Stop with your crazy rants.

"Disability" and Medicaid are federal programs that are funded by the states. Each state can choose to fund them as little or much as they choose. In Maryland, even severely disabled children do not get disability payments unless their parents are destitute. I can tell you (and I have a severely disabled child) that no working parents receive disability payments. If you are talking about LISS money which can be used to pay for therapies, that is $2,000 per year, and it is done by lottery. You can't possibly be serious that middle class kids will mild issues are receiving funds to pay for multiple classes, etc. That's BS.

I'm all for a basic income as long as EVERYONE gets it-not just the lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df

Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats

All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .

The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .

This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.

you are a horrible person with no understanding of parents or children with disabilities.

Thanks but I have one who is severely disabled. I see people whose kids have very mild issues getting therapies and the most school programs catered to their kids, horseback riding, government money for classes outside of school - the list is endless. If you people were more honest about what your family is receiving you'd probably be less contemptuous of others.

No, the government is not paying for rich kids to take horseback riding lessons. Stop with your crazy rants.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df

Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats

All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .

The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .

This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.

WTF. I have a kid with autism. I can't decide if I should be offended or pissed.

These posters are crazy. Seriously, parents and the medical profession are in cohoots to get kids fake autism diagnoses? You are completely off your rocker and you are spreading crazy, dangerous lies. Talk about people who need medication!

Am I crazy for reading this and thinking there should just be a universal basic income? Give this poor family twenty grand a year. Give all the poor families twenty grand. Ridiculous that this woman prays to god for the "right" diagnoses, but she's desperate, uneducated, and broke.

Tax the rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless if the article is a fair portrayal of all families receiving disability benefits, the system is being funded on the backs of so many families that do manage to work but are struggling as well. I do not care if the article is a fair portrayal or not. I do care that my family does take responsibility for ourselves and works HARD to just get by all the while paying taxes to help those families who instead see finding a diagnosis of some sort as their means to an end. Enough. I am so tired of feeling the fool for doing the right thing with my life.

why don't you direct your ire to the banks that got bailed out, the hedge fund billionaires not paying taxes, the corporate interests that destroyed unions? don't be fooled by attemps to distract you by blaming poor people "abusing" the system. You actually have a common enemy trying to divide you.

The people in the cheap seats will never understand this.

Anonymous wrote:My father has family members who live close to the town in this article. I wish I could say the people in the story are some kind of anomoly there, but unfortunately, they are not.

This is the reality. The Wash Post did not find the one family doing this. Once the first family managed to work the system others perked up and took note for themselves.