Anonymous
06/07/2017 14:20
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Well BASIS pattern is not that different from Washington Latin; Latin's first 2 graduating classes were 42 and 44 students (from initial classes of 90) and they accepted new students at 9th.
For years LAMB had huge attrition -- with only 18 students.
If the kids coming out of BASIS were failing wherever they go next, I might agree it's a problem. But they aren't -- in fact they are among some of the strongest students at Wilson, SWW and Banneker. They're getting a good middle school education, and exercising their right to change schools.
For years LAMB had huge attrition -- with only 18 students.
If the kids coming out of BASIS were failing wherever they go next, I might agree it's a problem. But they aren't -- in fact they are among some of the strongest students at Wilson, SWW and Banneker. They're getting a good middle school education, and exercising their right to change schools.
Anonymous
06/07/2017 14:06
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
The class started with 49 kids, not 90.
https://osse.dc.gov/publication/fy13-lea-and-school-level-enrollment-audit-reports
The only conclusion that I can draw about Basis is that 68% of the kids in a very tiny class (starting with 49 kids, if the PP is right) either dropped out or were otherwise shown the door before 12th grade. That is an astonishing number. I'm amazed that a school with statistics like these still exists, frankly, whether or not it serves the tiny number of surviving students well. There are local homeschool groups that "graduate" more children in a year.
I would certainly hope that the surviving 32% did well with college admissions. I'm guessing that even the worst-performing DCPS school might also have decent college admissions if it could somehow persuade 68% of its lowest-performing children to move on before their senior year.
Congrats to the kids who made it through and got into the colleges of their choosing, but this doesn't seem like a sustainablemodel, let alone one that makes good use of taxpayer money.
Why do you think the students who left were all low-performing? They weren't.
Some went to private high schools, most went to Banneker, Wilson and SWW.
Does it even matter why the left? Any taxpayer-funded school that retains only ~30% of its students over the course of middle and/or high school does not seem to be worthy of public funding.
Anonymous
06/07/2017 13:34
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
The class started with 49 kids, not 90.
https://osse.dc.gov/publication/fy13-lea-and-school-level-enrollment-audit-reports
The only conclusion that I can draw about Basis is that 68% of the kids in a very tiny class (starting with 49 kids, if the PP is right) either dropped out or were otherwise shown the door before 12th grade. That is an astonishing number. I'm amazed that a school with statistics like these still exists, frankly, whether or not it serves the tiny number of surviving students well. There are local homeschool groups that "graduate" more children in a year.
I would certainly hope that the surviving 32% did well with college admissions. I'm guessing that even the worst-performing DCPS school might also have decent college admissions if it could somehow persuade 68% of its lowest-performing children to move on before their senior year.
Congrats to the kids who made it through and got into the colleges of their choosing, but this doesn't seem like a sustainablemodel, let alone one that makes good use of taxpayer money.
Why do you think the students who left were all low-performing? They weren't.
Some went to private high schools, most went to Banneker, Wilson and SWW.
Anonymous
06/07/2017 13:30
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
The class started with 49 kids, not 90.
https://osse.dc.gov/publication/fy13-lea-and-school-level-enrollment-audit-reports
The only conclusion that I can draw about Basis is that 68% of the kids in a very tiny class (starting with 49 kids, if the PP is right) either dropped out or were otherwise shown the door before 12th grade. That is an astonishing number. I'm amazed that a school with statistics like these still exists, frankly, whether or not it serves the tiny number of surviving students well. There are local homeschool groups that "graduate" more children in a year.
I would certainly hope that the surviving 32% did well with college admissions. I'm guessing that even the worst-performing DCPS school might also have decent college admissions if it could somehow persuade 68% of its lowest-performing children to move on before their senior year.
Congrats to the kids who made it through and got into the colleges of their choosing, but this doesn't seem like a sustainablemodel, let alone one that makes good use of taxpayer money.
Let's wait and see what happens in future years. Anacostia high school has a graduation rate of 42 percent and 0 Princeton acceptances.
Anonymous
06/07/2017 13:09
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
The class started with 49 kids, not 90.
https://osse.dc.gov/publication/fy13-lea-and-school-level-enrollment-audit-reports
The only conclusion that I can draw about Basis is that 68% of the kids in a very tiny class (starting with 49 kids, if the PP is right) either dropped out or were otherwise shown the door before 12th grade. That is an astonishing number. I'm amazed that a school with statistics like these still exists, frankly, whether or not it serves the tiny number of surviving students well. There are local homeschool groups that "graduate" more children in a year.
I would certainly hope that the surviving 32% did well with college admissions. I'm guessing that even the worst-performing DCPS school might also have decent college admissions if it could somehow persuade 68% of its lowest-performing children to move on before their senior year.
Congrats to the kids who made it through and got into the colleges of their choosing, but this doesn't seem like a sustainablemodel, let alone one that makes good use of taxpayer money.
Anonymous
06/07/2017 12:44
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
PP, you need to save your tinfoil hat for two more years. The first class with an almost complete BASIS curriculum and typical attrition will graduate in 2019 and the first one to go from 5-12 is set to graduate in 2020. Bet you're hoping that class doesn't get into the "right" colleges, too!
Anonymous
06/07/2017 12:38
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
The class started with 49 kids, not 90.
https://osse.dc.gov/publication/fy13-lea-and-school-level-enrollment-audit-reports
Anonymous
06/07/2017 12:34
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
The graduating class started with almost 90 students, and only the top 16 survived, took advanced classes and several AP's and scored no more than a regular DCPS school?
Anonymous
06/06/2017 16:54
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
As has been stated several times in this thread, this class had a more typical high school path, since they started at BASIS as 8th graders. They didn't have the same pre-AP class prep as the students who will follow them.
They still had to take and pass several APs including at least 1 science, math, English AP. And whether they passed the exams or not, their AP exam grades actually count toward their GPAs, unlike any other school in the city.
The school hasn't released SAT scores -- or ACT scores -- and likely won't because the class is so small. We can all see next year how it's reflected in the US News and Washington Post rankings.
Anonymous
06/06/2017 16:51
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
not believable.
Anonymous
06/06/2017 16:45
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
I heard from a very reliable source that the average SAT of the graduating class was in the low 900's, lower than Latin, Wilson or Walls.
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
So what happened to all the fast track and AP classes?
Anonymous
06/06/2017 12:35
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:According to a senior's FB page the students will be attending the following schools
Arizona State
Boston College
Bowie State
Barnand
George Mason
Haverford
Howard U.
Johnson and Wales
Morgan State
Trinity College
St. Augustine
University of Dallas
University of New England
Montgomery College
This is fine but still seems like a real disconnect between an "advanced" math and science curriculum and these colleges.
Exactly.
What I have read here and other places about BASIS indicates that they do a lot of drill and kill type homework, students are investing quite about of time in homework and studying for "advanced" classes. So these poor kids are litterally waste hours of their young years on non productive academic work that results in no better or worse results then if they attend a local school. What's the attraction for parents? Training your kid for middle management? Paper pusher with little advancement prospects? What lesson does this really impart? Toil at busy work to get mediocre results? If nothing else, this list should be a wake up call to any parent who has a child there who is struggling or struggling under the weight of the work. It doesn't appear it's going to be worth it so why keep doing it. Why continue to be a booster for a school curriculum and school that doesn't meet the hype?
Do you always make such hyperbolic judgments based on such little available data? I wonder how other high schools did with their first ever graduating class, including the "elite" private schools in the area or for that matter nation-wide schools. But really a better indicator for the potential of BASIS DC might be to look at how the kids did at other more established BASIS schools with more than one graduating class. And for that matter, this most recent graduating class started in 8th grade, not 5th grade so even the next few years will not really give you enough information to really know how effective BASIS can be when a child goes from 5th grade through 12 grade.
Anonymous
06/06/2017 09:50
Subject: BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:According to a senior's FB page the students will be attending the following schools
Arizona State
Boston College
Bowie State
Barnand
George Mason
Haverford
Howard U.
Johnson and Wales
Morgan State
Trinity College
St. Augustine
University of Dallas
University of New England
Montgomery College
This is fine but still seems like a real disconnect between an "advanced" math and science curriculum and these colleges.
Exactly.
What I have read here and other places about BASIS indicates that they do a lot of drill and kill type homework, students are investing quite about of time in homework and studying for "advanced" classes. So these poor kids are litterally waste hours of their young years on non productive academic work that results in no better or worse results then if they attend a local school. What's the attraction for parents? Training your kid for middle management? Paper pusher with little advancement prospects? What lesson does this really impart? Toil at busy work to get mediocre results? If nothing else, this list should be a wake up call to any parent who has a child there who is struggling or struggling under the weight of the work. It doesn't appear it's going to be worth it so why keep doing it. Why continue to be a booster for a school curriculum and school that doesn't meet the hype?
I have read too many stories about students who graduate from urban high schools, get to college, and then end up either not finishing and/or crushed under a pile of debt. I have also read too many stories about how colleges are needing to provide remedial math to incoming freshmen, which is a waste of time for both the students (who are paying dearly for these college credits) and the schools of higher education who have to provide them.
Regardless of where these BASIS students land, it is likely they will graduate on time and hopefully with a minimum of student loans. Working hard in high school is not harmful! And the education landscape has changed -- a BA is not what it used to be and many students go on to grad school. There are many calculations that go into picking a college/university, so don't be so snobby, PP.
Talk about moving the goalposts. First it was 'BASIS provides the necessary rigor to compete in top tier college admissions'. Now it's 'BASIS will prepare students to finish college in 4 years'. I get the value of building good study habits and time management, and it seems like that's a point of emphasis at BASIS. I'm just not sold that school needs to suck the oxygen out of anything remotely creative or fun.
Anonymous
06/06/2017 08:48
Subject: Re:BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Anonymous wrote:Which is remarkable, considering how weak DCPS' college counseling is across the board. I volunteer for an NGO that provides college advising to low-income students in the Metro area. DCPS seniors routinely turn up asking for help on application knowing college admissions basics, including the fact that they needed to have taken the SAT, and a couple of SAT subject tests, before applying to competitive colleges. We often help Wilson, Walls and Banneker kids with strong academic records who seem to be on the receiving end of little or no college counseling. If you talk to their guidance counselors, you find that the counselors sometimes don't know college admissions basics themselves. They rely heavily on Naviance software to counsel kids, which doesn't work well. BASIS' college counseling is better, loads better.
And the list of colleges from these school is great. So thanks for helping.
Anonymous
06/06/2017 08:43
Subject: Re:BASIS DC first graduating class college acceptances list
Which is remarkable, considering how weak DCPS' college counseling is across the board. I volunteer for an NGO that provides college advising to low-income students in the Metro area. DCPS seniors routinely turn up asking for help on application knowing college admissions basics, including the fact that they needed to have taken the SAT, and a couple of SAT subject tests, before applying to competitive colleges. We often help Wilson, Walls and Banneker kids with strong academic records who seem to be on the receiving end of little or no college counseling. If you talk to their guidance counselors, you find that the counselors sometimes don't know college admissions basics themselves. They rely heavily on Naviance software to counsel kids, which doesn't work well. BASIS' college counseling is better, loads better.