Anonymous wrote:In my house growing up, children were assumed guilty/capable unless proven otherwise. That's the problem with parents nowadays.

They want to be friends at the wrong time. You are tough and they'll thank you for it later. They want boundaries and it's their job as teens to rebel--but they feel safe when somebody is being hard.

My brother was impossible growing up. He fought my parents tooth and nail and now he is the closest to them as an adult.

I'm sorry, but it's crazy to treat every kid like they're guilty. That's like saying every husband is an adulterer and should be treated that way. Every employee is a thief and should be treated that way.

If you think you need to create a police state in your home, you have already lost the battle. Pull down the judgement barrier and talk to your kids. I'll bet a lot of them are scared, but they're not going to tell you that while you're rifling through their backpack.

Maybe start by telling them YOU are scared. Stop telling them what you think you know about them, or their friends, or other parents as if it's fact.

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Anonymous wrote:And some dad prattled on in utter denial that there is an issue.

That's not how I read it at all. Sounds like his point is there may be a problem, but this isn't a great solution. Those who think it is are gullible as hell.

It may not be THE solution but it is part of the solution.

Anonymous wrote:And some dad prattled on in utter denial that there is an issue.

That's not how I read it at all. Sounds like his point is there may be a problem, but this isn't a great solution. Those who think it is are gullible as hell.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, I think the point about summer school students being targeted is sadly true. They're not the problem, but they don't have dual big-law parents to swoop in either.

If they aren't the problem (and I agree that they aren't), then who cares. There will be no drugs to sniff out. Drug sniffing dogs can walk around me all day long and I'm completely fine with it because I DON'T HAVE DRUGS ON ME. So, if they don't either, then it's no big deal.

I think APS wants to start it during the summer so they work out the kinks with fewer people there, so that they do it right later.

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

+1,000,000

And some dad prattled on in utter denial that there is an issue.

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

Who said kids "over there" (where?) are such a mess?

No one said dogs were illegal. Some question efficacy and slipper slopes. Some woman prattling on hysterically. And a lot of bad information.

Anonymous wrote:Look, the severe overcrowding is directly tied in with this. The administration can't keep their thumb on things due to numbers. I have had friends at MS in Arlington be highly unsatisfied when they meet with school officials over incidents (these weren't drug--other problems fairly serious as well) that from meeting to meeting they didn't have a clear grasp of what students were involved, who they were---they'd forget from meeting to meeting.

All of this burns up so much with dumbsh*t Murphy, the dumb*ss school board members and some active parents who believe any of the sh*t they tell them that over-crowded, super-sized schools aren't a problem. They ARE both academically and socially.

I do agree that it's very easy for kids to "hide" in these overcrowded schools. My neighbors have a WHS student who started drugs when at APS MS. He started with pot, moved on to ecstacy and cocaine. Now he's in rehab program #2 and his family is afraid to bring him back home to Arlington, because of the large schools and the fact that no one noticed his truancy or his drug use for over THREE YEARS. I'm sure it didn't help that his mom is outsourcing her "babysitting" to the kid's older sister, so not much monitoring or accountability on that home front, but it's sad that APS is spending over $20K a year on each child and yet unable to get smaller classrooms and more positive environment in its hallways.

Actually, I think the point about summer school students being targeted is sadly true. They're not the problem, but they don't have dual big-law parents to swoop in either.

I don't know that the approach being taken is the right one. However, I am glad we're talking about the issue anyway.

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

It's really disturbing.

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

+1,000,000

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

You're right. We shout just go full-on Duterte, eh?

Dear lord the AEM post is such a sadly illuminating glimpse into the minds of APS parents. Truly pathetic. More interested in quibbling over the legality ( it is) and waxing on about the policy implications.
No wonder the kids over there are such a mess.

In my house growing up, children were assumed guilty/capable unless proven otherwise. That's the problem with parents nowadays.

They want to be friends at the wrong time. You are tough and they'll thank you for it later. They want boundaries and it's their job as teens to rebel--but they feel safe when somebody is being hard.

My brother was impossible growing up. He fought my parents tooth and nail and now he is the closest to them as an adult.

Anonymous wrote:I am glad my kid won't be with that idiot crew in MS and HS. The sweep it under a rug and deny crew.

And they are worried snowflake will feel unsafe in an environment with police dogs and heavier surveillance. That kid has these parents under their thumb.