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Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

DP.. you're being dense. If most of the members find him offensive and feel uncomfortable with him being there, then the gym made a business decision to remove that person. And no, it's not the same thing as removing a minority or a gay person from a membership.

Paleo is just regurgitating from his alt right reading. I think a direct copy of this. Advise. Do better research. Think more for yourself.

https://altright.com/2017/05/22/crazy-cat-lady-professor-harrases-alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-at-gym/
What has the world come to that a White man can’t even be left alone to make gains in peace? Naturally, the Free Market sided with a psychopathic post-menopausal schitzo. Richard got banned, and she did not. But there is a ray of good news.

I don't read AltRight stuff. I read Chronicles Magazine, The American Conservative, The American Interest, The Imaginitive Conservative, and The Orthosphere

Add one or two left leaning sources. To balance. NPR? Think and compare the views of different sources. Right now you sound like a parrot without a fully formed frontal lobe.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/510533/rebranding-white-nationalism-inside-the-alt-right/

And this

http://thepointnews.com/2017/03/steve-bannon-from-rebranding-white-nationalism-to-advising-the-president

Perhaps this can help you understand the concern over normalizing people like Spencer and even Bannon

https://www.google.com/amp/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/12/7/13802640/white-nationalists-alt-right-racism-bannon-spencer-trump

What's so bad about being a pro-choice atheist?

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

DP.. you're being dense. If most of the members find him offensive and feel uncomfortable with him being there, then the gym made a business decision to remove that person. And no, it's not the same thing as removing a minority or a gay person from a membership.

Paleo is just regurgitating from his alt right reading. I think a direct copy of this. Advise. Do better research. Think more for yourself.

https://altright.com/2017/05/22/crazy-cat-lady-professor-harrases-alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-at-gym/
What has the world come to that a White man can’t even be left alone to make gains in peace? Naturally, the Free Market sided with a psychopathic post-menopausal schitzo. Richard got banned, and she did not. But there is a ray of good news.

I don't read AltRight stuff. I read Chronicles Magazine, The American Conservative, The American Interest, The Imaginitive Conservative, and The Orthosphere

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

DP.. you're being dense. If most of the members find him offensive and feel uncomfortable with him being there, then the gym made a business decision to remove that person. And no, it's not the same thing as removing a minority or a gay person from a membership.

Paleo is just regurgitating from his alt right reading. I think a direct copy of this. Advise. Do better research. Think more for yourself.

https://altright.com/2017/05/22/crazy-cat-lady-professor-harrases-alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-at-gym/
What has the world come to that a White man can’t even be left alone to make gains in peace? Naturally, the Free Market sided with a psychopathic post-menopausal schitzo. Richard got banned, and she did not. But there is a ray of good news.

Anonymous wrote:Meh... The left just wants to show that they are better at brown shirt tactics than actual Nazis. Who would have thunk it?


P.S. Ms. Fair just made herself a public figure with this action and going to the Post. By these (her) standards, feel free to contact anyone she does business with, including her employer.

Spencer and you are free to start your own gym.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

DP.. you're being dense. If most of the members find him offensive and feel uncomfortable with him being there, then the gym made a business decision to remove that person. And no, it's not the same thing as removing a minority or a gay person from a membership.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

It already happen in Europe. Nazis were not talking about killing Jews, they moved them to area away from aryans. To Warsaw ghetto, for instance. You remember what happened next, do you?

Right. As I've said, I am NOT a fan of Spencer. His views are wacky, I don't disagree there. My issue is with how this gym does things. They allowed him to become a member(I'm sure they knew what he believed back then) Then when this confrontation happens, he gets booted out. Why did they allow him to join in the first place? It's clear why they kicked him out, business. I don't think that's a good reason to kick him out, but I certainly understand it.

This is a big assumption. Gyms don't do background checks on everyone they enlist as a customer. Hell, even Spencer's landlord (who is brown) didn't Google who he was renting to.

Spencer joined a few months ago, but only first showed up to workout last week. I highly doubt the gym knew who they were getting to join a membership.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

It already happen in Europe. Nazis were not talking about killing Jews, they moved them to area away from aryans. To Warsaw ghetto, for instance. You remember what happened next, do you?

Right. As I've said, I am NOT a fan of Spencer. His views are wacky, I don't disagree there. My issue is with how this gym does things. They allowed him to become a member(I'm sure they knew what he believed back then) Then when this confrontation happens, he gets booted out. Why did they allow him to join in the first place? It's clear why they kicked him out, business. I don't think that's a good reason to kick him out, but I certainly understand it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/510533/rebranding-white-nationalism-inside-the-alt-right/

Feedback pales on this. Think before you post.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

It already happen in Europe. Nazis were not talking about killing Jews, they moved them to area away from aryans. To Warsaw ghetto, for instance. You remember what happened next, do you?

Right. As I've said, I am NOT a fan of Spencer. His views are wacky, I don't disagree there. My issue is with how this gym does things. They allowed him to become a member(I'm sure they knew what he believed back then) Then when this confrontation happens, he gets booted out. Why did they allow him to join in the first place? It's clear why they kicked him out, business. I don't think that's a good reason to kick him out, but I certainly understand it.

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

Ok, so what happens to the minorities who refuse to comply? Are they moved with force? And if they resist the force, what happens? Does the force escalate? Once you start using the power of the state to compel people to do things against their will you're ultimately saying you're willing to kill them. You're making a distinction without a difference to say he's not talking about killing.

Likely not if he reads alt right crap

http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.768982
In Spencer’s eyes, the “de-Judification” of the Holocaust is a quintessentially “Trumpian” statement. Spencer championed Trump through the presidential campaign — and though he has been critical of the president at times, seems to have come around to Trump.

“Trump is a white nationalist, so to speak, he is alt-right whether he likes it or not,” Spencer in a recent interview on “The David Pakman Show.”

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

It already happen in Europe. Nazis were not talking about killing Jews, they moved them to area away from aryans. To Warsaw ghetto, for instance. You remember what happened next, do you?

Anonymous wrote:Kind of interesting since the gym is nestled into a sure blocks away from The Berg public Housing project

Wonder how many of those residents would be welcomed by this insufferable professor or the manager? Other than the boat club, that gym
Is one of the whitest places in Old Town

I think "the gym" (any gym) is generally an upper class and white phenomenon overall, but it's becoming less so.

I'm a longtime member of this particular gym. The demographics are changing (as they are in Old Town, in general). Over the years the clientele has gotten younger, and more diverse. Most of the trainers are Black or female, and most of the fitness instructors are minorities. It's also not very transient, and it's clear that it provides a sense of community for many. By and large I've found people to be extremely encouraging and supportive of everyone - which is the exact opposite of what Spencer publicly stands for.

A racial separatist got separated. There is irony in that.

Meh... The left just wants to show that they are better at brown shirt tactics than actual Nazis. Who would have thunk it?


P.S. Ms. Fair just made herself a public figure with this action and going to the Post. By these (her) standards, feel free to contact anyone she does business with, including her employer.

Anonymous wrote:What's a low-brow racist?

A racist who doesn't know how to cloak his words in an intellectual veneer.