Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

That's not terribly advanced. There are 4th graders taking middle school math in this county.

No, not anymore. They stopped all acceleration except for a few really exceptional cases.

No, they didn't. In fact, they've been expanding acceleration again. Lots of elementary school students are covering fourth-grade, fifth-grade, and sixth-grade math in fourth and fifth grades, such that they go into IM in sixth grade.

If you mean the MCPS compacted math pathway, yes, they made it available to more kids. I meant beyond that. But see your point that Math 6 is middle school math.

Anonymous wrote:That isn't terribly advanced (kid taking 6th grade math in 5th). Just a few short years ago, most kids coming out of HGC went right into Algebra1 as 6th graders, having taken IM in 5th.

You don't get it, you should try re-reading and picking up on details. She should be going into 4th grade for her age, but she is going into 5th grade and doing 6th grade math. That IS two years ahead. That's the point.

Anonymous wrote:That isn't terribly advanced (kid taking 6th grade math in 5th). Just a few short years ago, most kids coming out of HGC went right into Algebra1 as 6th graders, having taken IM in 5th.

That wasn't my experience. In my kid's HGC, with three classrooms, a total of three students went into Algebra I as sixth graders.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

That's not terribly advanced. There are 4th graders taking middle school math in this county.

No, not anymore. They stopped all acceleration except for a few really exceptional cases.

No, they didn't. In fact, they've been expanding acceleration again. Lots of elementary school students are covering fourth-grade, fifth-grade, and sixth-grade math in fourth and fifth grades, such that they go into IM in sixth grade.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

That's not terribly advanced. There are 4th graders taking middle school math in this county.

No, not anymore. They stopped all acceleration except for a few really exceptional cases.

That isn't terribly advanced (kid taking 6th grade math in 5th). Just a few short years ago, most kids coming out of HGC went right into Algebra1 as 6th graders, having taken IM in 5th.

I am the unambitious dolt from above.

For your daughter's sake I hope it doesn't.

You do realize that you have basically NO DATA to show that it hasn't worn off?

"God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling."

Anonymous wrote:God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

That's not terribly advanced. There are 4th graders taking middle school math in this county.

Anonymous wrote:God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

Which glass ceiling is that?

God what a bunch of unambitious dolts.

My kid was advanced in K, skipped 1st and is going into 5th now as a G&T taking 6th grade math.

In her case it didn't "wear off" she is still pushing at the glass ceiling.

When we were in a similar situation, the thing that stopped us mid-process, was that DC met several similar kids as 2nd grade started.

They got to be bored together, they didn't feel out of place anymore and their teacher still tells stories about their conversations.

Mine was way more than 2 grades ahead, I would never skip. Get AEI involved, try HGC/magnets but other than that, I wouldn't.

Here is the thing. People are NOT locked in to be early readers and pick up math quickly. They may do that in grades 1 and 2 and then almost stagnate for grades 3 and 4 and end up right where they belong in grade 6.

I'm sure you are correct that if you push them in grade 3 and 4 you can keep them ahead of where they would be without pushing. The question is where will they end up when they are left to their own devices?

Our DC was a late reader and got pushed all through ES. It worked for reading BUT we are paying a huge price in other subjects. As a rising sophomore, DC now fights to NOT be pushed.

In MS, things got as bad as intentionally handing things in late that we worked with him on to improve once he thought he was "done".

"Your example doesn't negate the fact that children who ARE early readers and pick up math concepts quickly don't get the advancement they deserve in the early grades. Why do those kids need to wait for everyone else to catch up and blossom? Intelligence is a combination of nature and nurture, and if it is not nurtured those kids will stagnate."

Anonymous wrote:There is a student in my child's MCPS middle school that was 7th grade first half of year, moved to 8th grade for second half. Stayed in same world language / math class, but moved up in English, science, social studies.

Interesting as this is the first time I heard of a midyear skip.

I had a student mid-year skip this year. A tall, rather hirsuit ESOL 3 student from South Asia. He looked 16, but was 13 according to his records. He was already taking Geometry so it was only moving up PE, English, Science, and WS.

I did a midyear jump as a kid and it sucked. You get thrown in with a bunch of kids who already have established friendships, and there's a classroom routine that you don't know anything about, etc. It's almost as bad as a midyear move.

It's much better to skip at the beginning of the year.

Acceleration isn't right for all kids, but it's right for some. I ended up skipping three grades in total. I didn't really find my peer group until I was 3 years ahead, and then I made great friends. Still friendly with many of those folks now, 25 years after high school.

If your kid routinely makes friends with kids older than them, they will probably be comfortable with a grade-skip.