Anonymous wrote:From a southern friend of a friend's blog on the church in his southern state (i think this is a young minister). There's just so much wrong with this culture.
The church teachings amount to an emotional 'female genital circumcision/cutting' as these church people brainwash girls to believe that their own sexual pleasure is 'wrong'.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/07/vagina-is-a-sandwich-tweet/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#zoK2pa6Hhaqh


This is not a departure from the norm when it comes to how many church people talk about sex. It goes like this

1. Women, this one is really just for you because your sexuality is pretty much bad. Even in married life you should feel kinda bad for having (and, God forbid, liking sex).
2. Women, you will irreparably damage your body and soul if you have sex. Jesus forgives sins, but it's really hard for him to forgive people who have sex. Plus he doesn't like to.
3. Women, a good man will not want you if you have sex with people, and then where would you be? Remember your place in life entirely relies on a man to validate your existence.
4. Boys, your sexuality is basically good, but try not to let women destroy you with their bad sexuality.

My hope is that I am on the fringe in having experienced numerous purity talks that sound like this tweet, but I know too many people who have been hurt and trapped in guilt and shame because of this type of message.

Not much different than as each one involves girls not using their own genitals for sexual pleasure:

http://www.wusa9.com/mb/news/local/genital-mutilation-victims-break-their-silence-this-is-demonic/433630142


Not wanting to participate in this ignorant group freak show some of you call 'church' and 'being religious' doesn't make someone an atheist, it makes you someone that doesn't want to participate in an ignorant group freak show.

Anonymous wrote:Christian = being compliant. Helped keep the slaves compliant.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

I'm not an athiest. Not fearing god doesn't mean I dont believe there isn't one. I dont think that any one religions 'god' is more valuable than another one's either though.
Though I don't know maybe I care so little for formal religion maybe you could describe me that way - but I don't 'believe' in atheism enough for that label either.

I think we're back to 'slut'...

There is no such thing as believing in atheism. Atheism means absence of belief.

Apparently it's more complex than that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

I also like the point about how it's strange to label people for what they are not

Some atheists have doubted the very need for the term "atheism". In his book Letter to a Christian Nation, Sam Harris wrote:

In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist". We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.[61]

It's not strange in the society in which we currently live where being religious is the norm. There are lots of "a" words that are legitimate but not used very much, e.g., apolitical, asymptomatic (used more by physicians), asexual.

I agree with Sam Harris's point, but also think we're not there yet when it comes to religious belief. The examples he used are of things that most people already don't believe in.

When most people don't believe in god, maybe the use of atheism and agnosticism will be as rare as non-alchemist. That could take a long time.

Anonymous wrote:There is so much to despise about the South. If it wanted to secede, I would be fine with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

I'm not an athiest. Not fearing god doesn't mean I dont believe there isn't one. I dont think that any one religions 'god' is more valuable than another one's either though.
Though I don't know maybe I care so little for formal religion maybe you could describe me that way - but I don't 'believe' in atheism enough for that label either.

I think we're back to 'slut'...

There is no such thing as believing in atheism. Atheism means absence of belief.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

I'm not an athiest. Not fearing god doesn't mean I dont believe there isn't one. I dont think that any one religions 'god' is more valuable than another one's either though.
Though I don't know maybe I care so little for formal religion maybe you could describe me that way - but I don't 'believe' in atheism enough for that label either.

I think we're back to 'slut'...

There is no such thing as believing in atheism. Atheism means absence of belief.

Apparently it's more complex than that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

I also like the point about how it's strange to label people for what they are not

Some atheists have doubted the very need for the term "atheism". In his book Letter to a Christian Nation, Sam Harris wrote:

In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist". We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.[61]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

I'm not an athiest. Not fearing god doesn't mean I dont believe there isn't one. I dont think that any one religions 'god' is more valuable than another one's either though.
Though I don't know maybe I care so little for formal religion maybe you could describe me that way - but I don't 'believe' in atheism enough for that label either.

I think we're back to 'slut'...

There is no such thing as believing in atheism. Atheism means absence of belief.

Anonymous wrote:Well, I actually have relatives in the South and not all are "religious". The regious ones are that way b/c they don't rely on credit and prescription meds for their survival and happiness. They rely on God.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

I'm not an athiest. Not fearing god doesn't mean I dont believe there isn't one. I dont think that any one religions 'god' is more valuable than another one's either though.
Though I don't know maybe I care so little for formal religion maybe you could describe me that way - but I don't 'believe' in atheism enough for that label either.

I think we're back to 'slut'...

Anonymous wrote:Well, I actually have relatives in the South and not all are "religious". The regious ones are that way b/c they don't rely on credit and prescription meds for their survival and happiness. They rely on
God.

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is Southern people are highly nicer than northern people and have better manners.

Well, bless your heart!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.

Sounds like you were a born atheist. Just like some people are born susceptible to belief

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing. It sounds like it could create a lot of stress for kids if they didn't share those beliefs. Was that in the South?

Np here. I don't think it would cause stress.
Just a fact of navigating it.

You're usually in the literal and figurative clubs. Or you're not. And everyone knows where you stand pretty much. And everyone knows if you are religious but being wayward anyway.

What about the slut shaming the PP described? That would stress me out if it happened to me or even if I thought it could happen to me.

Eh - I'd rather go for the slut shaming than participate in that stupid trash. Bring on the slutting!

Geez. I grew up in DC and my mother dragged me to church every darned Sunday but i just couldn't get anything out of it. I'm a pretty moral and good person but I didnt like the sexism and hippocracy of the church (the meanest most self centered people go to church the most), didn't get anything out of praying, and I dont 'fear anything' including god. I don't understand people who go for all of this stuff verbatim. Not even 15 years of Catholic school could make me a robot - I'd much rather be known as a slut.

Don't get it. And yes we have religious relations in the south and they say ignorant off the wall things - it's really like they are in a cult.