Sadly (although much to my own amusement) I have read a lot of stuff from the sad Red Pillers. And everything OP said is straight from it. Absolutely nothing original, just regurgitated MRA BS. No wonder those communities are the laughingstocks of the internet

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Anonymous wrote:"s steeper bell curve among men?" Are you kidding?

Women are judged on looks, like men are judged on career success. Every single woman has her own bell curve, and falls off a cliff at some point. At the same time, each woman is on the curve of all women, which probably doesn't seem steep to you because you literally don't see women who aren't super attractive.

Women choose to exit the competition, by a declaration of being done with men, by excluding men who insufficiently resemble an affluent movie character, by not fighting the weight battle, and through choices in appearance and lifestyle. I know someone who grumbles about feeling invisible, but she makes specific decisions to be just that.

Huh? I'm 45, have four young children. And I look like it. Are you suggesting that it was a choice to lose my abs?

I was replying to the portion in bold, that men don't see women who aren't super attractive. And there is this cliche that older women are invisible. I'm saying that's not true, to a large extent.

I don't even know what you are implying by "45 with 4 kids". If you've gained 50 pounds like the woman in that other thread, maybe you ought to look at that. Are 45-year-old women supposed to have abs?

NP. Sounds like you expect her to. Might want to reread your above post. NAGL.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"s steeper bell curve among men?" Are you kidding?

Women are judged on looks, like men are judged on career success. Every single woman has her own bell curve, and falls off a cliff at some point. At the same time, each woman is on the curve of all women, which probably doesn't seem steep to you because you literally don't see women who aren't super attractive.

Women choose to exit the competition, by a declaration of being done with men, by excluding men who insufficiently resemble an affluent movie character, by not fighting the weight battle, and through choices in appearance and lifestyle. I know someone who grumbles about feeling invisible, but she makes specific decisions to be just that.

Huh? I'm 45, have four young children. And I look like it. Are you suggesting that it was a choice to lose my abs?

I was replying to the portion in bold, that men don't see women who aren't super attractive. And there is this cliche that older women are invisible. I'm saying that's not true, to a large extent.

I don't even know what you are implying by "45 with 4 kids". If you've gained 50 pounds like the woman in that other thread, maybe you ought to look at that. Are 45-year-old women supposed to have abs?

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Anonymous wrote:How many women have been great composers? Theoretical physicists? Philosophers? Moon astronauts? Possibly some, but not very many.

Similarly, how many women smoke PCP? Drink mouthwash? Piss themselves while nodding off on junk on a park bench? Not none, but not near as much as men.

This is OP's point.

How much more access to education have men historically had than women?
How many women's accomplishments were pooh-poohed or falsely attributed to men?

It's hard to track historical female accomplishment when men provided access to education and decided what was worth recording in the history books.

It's actually amazing, given how much female education was (and still is, in most of the world) so severely limited, how much women have dominated literature as a field. The first novel was written by a woman, after all.

And, we can see now that women in the US have been given equal education, that they are dominating high school and college to such an extent that there is very serious concern about the future of men.

I guess that's why men needed to limit women's access to education- maybe they knew, deep down, that if you gave women the opportunity, women would outpace them in a flash, and leave them in the dust.

Anonymous wrote:How many women have been great composers? Theoretical physicists? Philosophers? Moon astronauts? Possibly some, but not very many.

Similarly, how many women smoke PCP? Drink mouthwash? Piss themselves while nodding off on junk on a park bench? Not none, but not near as much as men.

This is OP's point.

How much more access to education have men historically had than women?
How many women's accomplishments were pooh-poohed or falsely attributed to men?

It's hard to track historical female accomplishment when men provided access to education and decided what was worth recording in the history books.

Anonymous wrote:How many women have been great composers? Theoretical physicists? Philosophers? Moon astronauts? Possibly some, but not very many.

Similarly, how many women smoke PCP? Drink mouthwash? Piss themselves while nodding off on junk on a park bench? Not none, but not near as much as men.

This is OP's point.

My DW pisses her pants a little if she laughs too hard or sneezes some times, does that count?

Excellent points.

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Anonymous wrote:"s steeper bell curve among men?" Are you kidding?

Women are judged on looks, like men are judged on career success. Every single woman has her own bell curve, and falls off a cliff at some point. At the same time, each woman is on the curve of all women, which probably doesn't seem steep to you because you literally don't see women who aren't super attractive.

Women choose to exit the competition, by a declaration of being done with men, by excluding men who insufficiently resemble an affluent movie character, by not fighting the weight battle, and through choices in appearance and lifestyle. I know someone who grumbles about feeling invisible, but she makes specific decisions to be just that.

Huh? I'm 45, have four young children. And I look like it. Are you suggesting that it was a choice to lose my abs?

Women can just "wish" their way back to a perfect body. The realities of medical history and the way pregnancy shifts the body down to a cellular level? Totally irrelevant. You just have to really "WANT" to look smoking hot for the bros and it will happen.

Anonymous wrote:Truly fascinating. How did you figure this out?

In his basement, after jerking off to porn and crying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"s steeper bell curve among men?" Are you kidding?

Women are judged on looks, like men are judged on career success. Every single woman has her own bell curve, and falls off a cliff at some point. At the same time, each woman is on the curve of all women, which probably doesn't seem steep to you because you literally don't see women who aren't super attractive.

Women choose to exit the competition, by a declaration of being done with men, by excluding men who insufficiently resemble an affluent movie character, by not fighting the weight battle, and through choices in appearance and lifestyle. I know someone who grumbles about feeling invisible, but she makes specific decisions to be just that.

Huh? I'm 45, have four young children. And I look like it. Are you suggesting that it was a choice to lose my abs?

I only skimmed your too long rambling post OP but if you think are more "expendable" than women please visit a developing nation or any muslim majority nation and get back to me. I am pretty sure afghanistan disagrees with you.

Anonymous wrote:How many women have been great composers? Theoretical physicists? Philosophers? Moon astronauts? Possibly some, but not very many.

Similarly, how many women smoke PCP? Drink mouthwash? Piss themselves while nodding off on junk on a park bench? Not none, but not near as much as men.

This is OP's point.

Nature can gamble on men because sperm is expendable. Eggs are more valuable.

How many women have been great composers? Theoretical physicists? Philosophers? Moon astronauts? Possibly some, but not very many.

Similarly, how many women smoke PCP? Drink mouthwash? Piss themselves while nodding off on junk on a park bench? Not none, but not near as much as men.

This is OP's point.

OP is an entitled ass.

Anonymous wrote:Women may want an equal or greater than partner, but men want a better looking or younger than partner. Yes, there are losers and winners, but what about the average Joes?

Again a myth.
80% of all people, men and women, are average joes.
Stop living in theory-land and open your eyes to happy couples/workers who are average. It is absolutely not pure winners and pure losers.