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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but they grew up there. There grandmother still lives there. Other family still lives there.

It will ALWAYS be "their" neighborhood, because THEY have a family history there. You, do not. You're there until your next career move happens, and you're off to another city. And after you leave, they'll stil be double parking, long after you're gentrifying someplace else.

Your white privilege has no power when it comes to church parking.

Deal.

My husband is white, born and raised in this city. It's not white or black it's D.C. Vs MD

But you are the one complaining? He grew up in NW? Say whatever makes you feel better about your privilege.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but they grew up there. There grandmother still lives there. Other family still lives there.

It will ALWAYS be "their" neighborhood, because THEY have a family history there. You, do not. You're there until your next career move happens, and you're off to another city. And after you leave, they'll stil be double parking, long after you're gentrifying someplace else.

Your white privilege has no power when it comes to church parking.

Deal.

My husband is white, born and raised in this city. It's not white or black it's D.C. Vs MD

Anonymous wrote:Around Lincoln Park in SE DC, have noticed on Sundays, cars park along the park-side of the street which is normally a driving lane with no parking allowed. I think this is for a church. Why are the cars parked illegally not ticketed? Does this happen elsewhere in DC? What hours can you illegally park here and not get ticketed?

Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witness church will get your car towed anytime during the week. Near bike path out by Purcellville. beware. parking lot is empty on a wednesday afternoon and they will tow you.

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Anonymous wrote:Around Lincoln Park in SE DC, have noticed on Sundays, cars park along the park-side of the street which is normally a driving lane with no parking allowed. I think this is for a church. Why are the cars parked illegally not ticketed? Does this happen elsewhere in DC? What hours can you illegally park here and not get ticketed?

You must be new here.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Massachusetts, where my family moved in 1620. All of my extended family still lives there, and even though I haven't been in resident in almost 30 years I still read the hometown paper online and root for the local sports teams.

I wouldn't in a million years dream of telling an actual Massachusetts resident -- even a newcomer -- that I somehow have a greater voice in local affairs than I do. That newcomer lives there, I don't.

a greater voice in local affairs than he does

As an original colonizer, of course you wouldn't understand.

Pilgrims. Glad your ancestors had a choice.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Massachusetts, where my family moved in 1620. All of my extended family still lives there, and even though I haven't been in resident in almost 30 years I still read the hometown paper online and root for the local sports teams.

I wouldn't in a million years dream of telling an actual Massachusetts resident -- even a newcomer -- that I somehow have a greater voice in local affairs than I do. That newcomer lives there, I don't.

a greater voice in local affairs than he does

I grew up in Massachusetts, where my family moved in 1620. All of my extended family still lives there, and even though I haven't been in resident in almost 30 years I still read the hometown paper online and root for the local sports teams.

I wouldn't in a million years dream of telling an actual Massachusetts resident -- even a newcomer -- that I somehow have a greater voice in local affairs than I do. That newcomer lives there, I don't.

Anonymous wrote:DC doesn't generally enforce any parking on Sundays.

this. Its an unspoken but consistent rule. Just don't block a fire hydrant. We don't go to church and park anywhere on sundays. way past the parking signs.

Reality

Some black churches exercise a lot of political power in DC, because A. They still have some DC members, or their Md members have DC relations B. Some Md folks donate to pols C. Lots of AA residents in DC unconnected to particular churches can be swayed by arguments like PP's. D. Some can make a case for their importance as social service providers

But - over time, those mostly elderly "left behind grandmas"will pass away. Even the Md residents will consist more and more of folks who grew up in Md, with no connection to the old neighborhood, instead of folks who grew up in DC. Ward 9 will change.

And most churches will respond to their moving congregations, and to the RE market. Some are building mixed use edifices that will incorporate a church. But many (I can think of three off the top of my head - one in Navy Yard, one near H Street, and one in Columbia Heights) simply move on. So over time this will become a smaller issue. Meanwhile, it is what it is.

Reality

Some black churches exercise a lot of political power in DC, because A. They still have some DC members, or their Md members have DC relations B. Some Md folks donate to pols C. Lots of AA residents in DC unconnected to particular churches can be swayed by arguments like PP's. D. Some can make a case for their importance as social service providers

But - over time, those mostly elderly "left behind grandmas"will pass away. Even the Md residents will consist more and more of folks who grew up in Md, with no connection to the old neighborhood, instead of folks who grew up in DC. Ward 9 will change.

And most churches will respond to their moving congregations, and to the RE market. Some are building mixed use edifices that will incorporate a church. But many (I can think of three off the top of my head - one in Navy Yard, one near H Street, and one in Columbia Heights) simply move on. So over time this will become a smaller issue. Meanwhile, it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

What would you say if someone from a different era, i.e., before restrictive covenants were struck down as unconstitutional, saying that these grandparents can't be there because of that tradition of whiteness? That it's really white people's neighborhood? It's the same level of ridiculousness as your argument about legacy ownership and holds no water.

Too much white privilege to understand.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but they grew up there. There grandmother still lives there. Other family still lives there.

It will ALWAYS be "their" neighborhood, because THEY have a family history there. You, do not. You're there until your next career move happens, and you're off to another city. And after you leave, they'll stil be double parking, long after you're gentrifying someplace else.

Your white privilege has no power when it comes to church parking.

Deal.

Okay, great. I'll go park in the hospital parking lot for free, because my family used to own and occupy the land it now sits on. It will always be "my" neighborhood, because I have a family history there. The hospital owners and employees do not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

What would you say if someone from a different era, i.e., before restrictive covenants were struck down as unconstitutional, saying that these grandparents can't be there because of that tradition of whiteness? That it's really white people's neighborhood? It's the same level of ridiculousness as your argument about legacy ownership and holds no water.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

You literally argued earlier that they had some right to illegally park because their grandma still lives in the neighborhood (which, if true, means grandma can apply for a visitor parking pass and they can park legally, elsewhere).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

Cool, I'll pull that card and double park wherever I want next time I go to Rose's Luxury, since my parents and grandparents grew up in that neighborhood.