Anonymous
03/14/2017 22:58
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Totally unethical!!
Anonymous
03/14/2017 22:42
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:The government per diem rate is not the same as the government rate that you can find online , The per diem has to be for official travel
No you're confusing this. The per diem rate is just the maximum amount reimbursable to you if you are on official travel. Say it's $150 in a town. You are certainly free to choose to spend $200/night at a hotel, but you would only be reimbursed $150 that night. You have to pay the difference out of pocket.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:47
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
The government per diem rate is not the same as the government rate that you can find online , The per diem has to be for official travel
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:42
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS didn't just show up. I always call ahead before making the reservation and ask about the rate and their age policy. It has never been an issue and I am very honest about the reason for travel, and so far it was always fine with all hotels, apart from this one. Hence my question.
I'm glad you were finally caught. It's dishonest to have your son traveling on the government rate when he's not a government employee. It's the same as having him stay under the AARP rate. You're obviously NOT as honest as you think you are or you don't understand the difference between your DH
and your DS.
Bottom line - the government rate is for government employees. Not relatives of government employees!
You sounds like a profoundly nasty and unhappy person. How can I be caught when I always tell the hotel why we are traveling when booking, always with hotel direct over the phone? I've told many times, we are coming for a sporting event, or for fun and they always say, yes I can use my Gov Id, even without DH.
Are you a government employee or are you not? If you're not a government employee you can't use the government rate. End of story.
A government issued ID is a drivers license. It does not mean you're eligible for the gov rate. A government issued ID is required for all rates! Technically any hotel can and most likely will ask to see your ID when you check into a hotel.
No you're dense. You don't actually have to be a government employee to get the government rate; you really only technically need a government ID or travel orders. I have a government ID, but I am not a government employee.
Secondly, when my husband was active duty, I also had a military ID. That allowed me to go to base, buy stuff at the Exchange, go to the gym, rent canoes through MWR. It also allowed me to get the government rates at some hotels. And no - you don't have to be on official travel, though some hotels may require it.
How?! You said this isn't a driver's license. How do you have a government personnel ID if you're not a government employee??
I'm a different poster.
Presently I have a government ID issued to me as I'm working a contract with a federal agency. They gave me a badge - CAC card, even though I'm not a federal employee. I work for a private company. The badge gives me access to the government building.
In a previous job, I worked as a SETA for another government agency. Again, that agency provided me a badge, and that badge allowed me to get the government rate at hotels.
If this is the case then I would think this badge would work when checking into a hotel. However, someone could be a stickler and ask to see your government issued credit card. This has happened to me before.
Regardless, I assume your son isn't a contract worker and should not have any sort of ID that could look like a government personnel badge. As a result, it makes sense he didn't receive the government rate.
I still don't quite understand your post though as it really shouldn't have anything to do with your husband.
I'm not the OP, and I posted the above. I was a fed for 5 years and have worked on government contracts 5 years out of the other 11 years I've worked at private companies. I have never once had a hotel ask me for a government credit card in all my travels, and I've traveled a lot. I have also pretty much stayed at every single hotel chain.
Pp here. It's only Happened to me once but it did happen.
Another time I was checking out with my government credit card and was asked to see my government ID. I thought this was silly because how would I have a government credit card if I didn't work for the government?
The best way to ensure you don't run into any issues on the government rate are:
1. Carry your government badge with you
2. Have the room under your name
3. If you're traveling for personal instead of on business make sure and ask about this in advance.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:37
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS didn't just show up. I always call ahead before making the reservation and ask about the rate and their age policy. It has never been an issue and I am very honest about the reason for travel, and so far it was always fine with all hotels, apart from this one. Hence my question.
I'm glad you were finally caught. It's dishonest to have your son traveling on the government rate when he's not a government employee. It's the same as having him stay under the AARP rate. You're obviously NOT as honest as you think you are or you don't understand the difference between your DH
and your DS.
Bottom line - the government rate is for government employees. Not relatives of government employees!
You sounds like a profoundly nasty and unhappy person. How can I be caught when I always tell the hotel why we are traveling when booking, always with hotel direct over the phone? I've told many times, we are coming for a sporting event, or for fun and they always say, yes I can use my Gov Id, even without DH.
Are you a government employee or are you not? If you're not a government employee you can't use the government rate. End of story.
A government issued ID is a drivers license. It does not mean you're eligible for the gov rate. A government issued ID is required for all rates! Technically any hotel can and most likely will ask to see your ID when you check into a hotel.
No you're dense. You don't actually have to be a government employee to get the government rate; you really only technically need a government ID or travel orders. I have a government ID, but I am not a government employee.
Secondly, when my husband was active duty, I also had a military ID. That allowed me to go to base, buy stuff at the Exchange, go to the gym, rent canoes through MWR. It also allowed me to get the government rates at some hotels. And no - you don't have to be on official travel, though some hotels may require it.
How?! You said this isn't a driver's license. How do you have a government personnel ID if you're not a government employee??
I'm a different poster.
Presently I have a government ID issued to me as I'm working a contract with a federal agency. They gave me a badge - CAC card, even though I'm not a federal employee. I work for a private company. The badge gives me access to the government building.
In a previous job, I worked as a SETA for another government agency. Again, that agency provided me a badge, and that badge allowed me to get the government rate at hotels.
If this is the case then I would think this badge would work when checking into a hotel. However, someone could be a stickler and ask to see your government issued credit card. This has happened to me before.
Regardless, I assume your son isn't a contract worker and should not have any sort of ID that could look like a government personnel badge. As a result, it makes sense he didn't receive the government rate.
I still don't quite understand your post though as it really shouldn't have anything to do with your husband.
I'm not the OP, and I posted the above. I was a fed for 5 years and have worked on government contracts 5 years out of the other 11 years I've worked at private companies. I have never once had a hotel ask me for a government credit card in all my travels, and I've traveled a lot. I have also pretty much stayed at every single hotel chain.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:35
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The rule is that you need to be traveling for business.
FALSE. Hotels may choose to do as they please re the rate and leisure travel.
you are getting two things mixed-up; how rules are written and how hotels implement the rules.
No. You are getting things mixed up. Hotels are private entities and can set their own rates. The fact that there are some negotiated government rates doesn't negate this. Hotels are also free to extend the government rates beyond just government employees on official government travel.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:33
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS didn't just show up. I always call ahead before making the reservation and ask about the rate and their age policy. It has never been an issue and I am very honest about the reason for travel, and so far it was always fine with all hotels, apart from this one. Hence my question.
I'm glad you were finally caught. It's dishonest to have your son traveling on the government rate when he's not a government employee. It's the same as having him stay under the AARP rate. You're obviously NOT as honest as you think you are or you don't understand the difference between your DH
and your DS.
Bottom line - the government rate is for government employees. Not relatives of government employees!
You sounds like a profoundly nasty and unhappy person. How can I be caught when I always tell the hotel why we are traveling when booking, always with hotel direct over the phone? I've told many times, we are coming for a sporting event, or for fun and they always say, yes I can use my Gov Id, even without DH.
Are you a government employee or are you not? If you're not a government employee you can't use the government rate. End of story.
A government issued ID is a drivers license. It does not mean you're eligible for the gov rate. A government issued ID is required for all rates! Technically any hotel can and most likely will ask to see your ID when you check into a hotel.
No you're dense. You don't actually have to be a government employee to get the government rate; you really only technically need a government ID or travel orders. I have a government ID, but I am not a government employee.
Secondly, when my husband was active duty, I also had a military ID. That allowed me to go to base, buy stuff at the Exchange, go to the gym, rent canoes through MWR. It also allowed me to get the government rates at some hotels. And no - you don't have to be on official travel, though some hotels may require it.
How?! You said this isn't a driver's license. How do you have a government personnel ID if you're not a government employee??
I'm a different poster.
Presently I have a government ID issued to me as I'm working a contract with a federal agency. They gave me a badge - CAC card, even though I'm not a federal employee. I work for a private company. The badge gives me access to the government building.
In a previous job, I worked as a SETA for another government agency. Again, that agency provided me a badge, and that badge allowed me to get the government rate at hotels.
If this is the case then I would think this badge would work when checking into a hotel. However, someone could be a stickler and ask to see your government issued credit card. This has happened to me before.
Regardless, I assume your son isn't a contract worker and should not have any sort of ID that could look like a government personnel badge. As a result, it makes sense he didn't receive the government rate.
I still don't quite understand your post though as it really shouldn't have anything to do with your husband.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:31
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:OP - why don't you just pay normal rates like everyone else. trying to save a few $ using your DH's job seems cheap and unethical.
There isn't anything unethical about taking advantage of a rate that is available to you. What is wrong with you people?
As for normal rates, there's really no such thing when it comes sot airline fares and hotels. They charge different people different amounts, depending on the room, amenities, date, and what they think people are willing to pay.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:28
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The rule is that you need to be traveling for business.
FALSE. Hotels may choose to do as they please re the rate and leisure travel.
you are getting two things mixed-up; how rules are written and how hotels implement the rules.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:14
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:The rule is that you need to be traveling for business.
FALSE. Hotels may choose to do as they please re the rate and leisure travel.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 21:00
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
OP - why don't you just pay normal rates like everyone else. trying to save a few $ using your DH's job seems cheap and unethical.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 19:57
Subject: Re:Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
My DH is former military. I always got the military rate even when traveling without him.
My DH is now a Fed. I always get the government rate even when traveling without him. Many times I stay free on points he earned during government travel. Again, even when he is not with me.
When you make the reservation, just confirm the rate. I have never had an issue. For what it's worth, I almost always stay at a Marriott property.
My DH is now a Fed. I always get the government rate even when traveling without him. Many times I stay free on points he earned during government travel. Again, even when he is not with me.
When you make the reservation, just confirm the rate. I have never had an issue. For what it's worth, I almost always stay at a Marriott property.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 19:51
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:OP here, I am not pp who wrote about having a military ID in the past or rent canoes. But, it does seem that pp know what he/she is talking about and we are in a similar situation.
Why are you not being clear about the type of ID you have? There are lots of military spouses on this board. If it's a military dependent ID, just say so.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 19:51
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS didn't just show up. I always call ahead before making the reservation and ask about the rate and their age policy. It has never been an issue and I am very honest about the reason for travel, and so far it was always fine with all hotels, apart from this one. Hence my question.
I'm glad you were finally caught. It's dishonest to have your son traveling on the government rate when he's not a government employee. It's the same as having him stay under the AARP rate. You're obviously NOT as honest as you think you are or you don't understand the difference between your DH
and your DS.
Bottom line - the government rate is for government employees. Not relatives of government employees!
You sounds like a profoundly nasty and unhappy person. How can I be caught when I always tell the hotel why we are traveling when booking, always with hotel direct over the phone? I've told many times, we are coming for a sporting event, or for fun and they always say, yes I can use my Gov Id, even without DH.
Are you a government employee or are you not? If you're not a government employee you can't use the government rate. End of story.
A government issued ID is a drivers license. It does not mean you're eligible for the gov rate. A government issued ID is required for all rates! Technically any hotel can and most likely will ask to see your ID when you check into a hotel.
No you're dense. You don't actually have to be a government employee to get the government rate; you really only technically need a government ID or travel orders. I have a government ID, but I am not a government employee.
Secondly, when my husband was active duty, I also had a military ID. That allowed me to go to base, buy stuff at the Exchange, go to the gym, rent canoes through MWR. It also allowed me to get the government rates at some hotels. And no - you don't have to be on official travel, though some hotels may require it.
How?! You said this isn't a driver's license. How do you have a government personnel ID if you're not a government employee??
I'm a different poster.
Presently I have a government ID issued to me as I'm working a contract with a federal agency. They gave me a badge - CAC card, even though I'm not a federal employee. I work for a private company. The badge gives me access to the government building.
In a previous job, I worked as a SETA for another government agency. Again, that agency provided me a badge, and that badge allowed me to get the government rate at hotels.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 19:47
Subject: Gov. rate and ID question regards hotels
OP here, I am not pp who wrote about having a military ID in the past or rent canoes. But, it does seem that pp know what he/she is talking about and we are in a similar situation.