yeah just i'm excited about a female president but i never voted for one

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Anonymous wrote:I know because the other day I had a casual conversation with two teachers about interesting places I visited with my kids. It was very surprising when both teachers commented
they've never been to Jamestown.

This does not surprise me since(in FCPS) 4th graders go to Jamestown. I would expect most 4th grade teachers have visited but I wouldn't expect that all grade level teachers have visited.

What's the big deal if they haven't visited Jamestown (or Mt. Vernon which FCPS 4th graders go to on a field trip)? They're still going to teach about it, show pictures of it, discuss etc. Just because you haven't physically set foot there doesn't mean you're not excited to teach about it.

I live in the VA 'burbs and haven't stepped foot in the Capitol since high school. And the last time I visited the Smithsonian was about 5 years ago.

I have a life and kids and a job and don't have time to make a whole day of visiting historic places.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

Good grief. This is fast becoming one of the more ridiculous demands on teachers. Some people are looking for things to complain about.

FWIW, I was a teacher prior to moving to Virginia. Guess what? I taught kids about Mt. Vernon and Jamestown LONG before I ever visited either one. I never taught in Virginia, but, since moving here, I have visited Mt. Vernon and Jamestown--among other historical sites. Do I think it would have helped my teaching? Not really. I might have picked up some materials, since I taught prior to the internet. Am I glad I visited them? Absolutely.

And, for the record, teachers all across the country teach about Mt Vernon and Jamestown because they are a part of American history--not just Virginia history. They also teach about aeronautics without ever having visited the Air and Space Museum.

As for field trips, they have value to some kids--to others, not so much. Just go to the Smithsonian on a school day and watch. Some groups are attentive and learning, and others are running wild through the museums.

+1

Ridiculous. Go spend your time doing something productive. They are plenty of real issues in our schools you could address.

and it all begins (and ends) with the teachers.

Then go find a way to support yours instead of tearing her down.

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unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

Good grief. This is fast becoming one of the more ridiculous demands on teachers. Some people are looking for things to complain about.

FWIW, I was a teacher prior to moving to Virginia. Guess what? I taught kids about Mt. Vernon and Jamestown LONG before I ever visited either one. I never taught in Virginia, but, since moving here, I have visited Mt. Vernon and Jamestown--among other historical sites. Do I think it would have helped my teaching? Not really. I might have picked up some materials, since I taught prior to the internet. Am I glad I visited them? Absolutely.

And, for the record, teachers all across the country teach about Mt Vernon and Jamestown because they are a part of American history--not just Virginia history. They also teach about aeronautics without ever having visited the Air and Space Museum.

As for field trips, they have value to some kids--to others, not so much. Just go to the Smithsonian on a school day and watch. Some groups are attentive and learning, and others are running wild through the museums.

i'm sure your students would've love it if you had visited the site where jane was found and had a cool story to tell. you might've even inspired a couple to learn more about that period. isn't that what teaching is about?

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Anonymous wrote:

unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

Good grief. This is fast becoming one of the more ridiculous demands on teachers. Some people are looking for things to complain about.

FWIW, I was a teacher prior to moving to Virginia. Guess what? I taught kids about Mt. Vernon and Jamestown LONG before I ever visited either one. I never taught in Virginia, but, since moving here, I have visited Mt. Vernon and Jamestown--among other historical sites. Do I think it would have helped my teaching? Not really. I might have picked up some materials, since I taught prior to the internet. Am I glad I visited them? Absolutely.

And, for the record, teachers all across the country teach about Mt Vernon and Jamestown because they are a part of American history--not just Virginia history. They also teach about aeronautics without ever having visited the Air and Space Museum.

As for field trips, they have value to some kids--to others, not so much. Just go to the Smithsonian on a school day and watch. Some groups are attentive and learning, and others are running wild through the museums.

+1

Ridiculous. Go spend your time doing something productive. They are plenty of real issues in our schools you could address.

and it all begins (and ends) with the teachers.

Anonymous wrote:

unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

Good grief. This is fast becoming one of the more ridiculous demands on teachers. Some people are looking for things to complain about.

FWIW, I was a teacher prior to moving to Virginia. Guess what? I taught kids about Mt. Vernon and Jamestown LONG before I ever visited either one. I never taught in Virginia, but, since moving here, I have visited Mt. Vernon and Jamestown--among other historical sites. Do I think it would have helped my teaching? Not really. I might have picked up some materials, since I taught prior to the internet. Am I glad I visited them? Absolutely.

And, for the record, teachers all across the country teach about Mt Vernon and Jamestown because they are a part of American history--not just Virginia history. They also teach about aeronautics without ever having visited the Air and Space Museum.

As for field trips, they have value to some kids--to others, not so much. Just go to the Smithsonian on a school day and watch. Some groups are attentive and learning, and others are running wild through the museums.

+1

Ridiculous. Go spend your time doing something productive. They are plenty of real issues in our schools you could address.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

My expectations of teachers have nothing to do with them visiting a few local/regional historic sites.

Seriously, the only one who cares about this is you, OP. Why not spend your energy worrying about things that matter.

i'm not OP. and there're two of us who care, sorry to disappoint.

Ok. There are at least two fools concerned about this.

naming calling. nice.

Anonymous wrote:I know because the other day I had a casual conversation with two teachers about interesting places I visited with my kids. It was very surprising when both teachers commented
they've never been to Jamestown.

This does not surprise me since(in FCPS) 4th graders go to Jamestown. I would expect most 4th grade teachers have visited but I wouldn't expect that all grade level teachers have visited.

unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

Good grief. This is fast becoming one of the more ridiculous demands on teachers. Some people are looking for things to complain about.

FWIW, I was a teacher prior to moving to Virginia. Guess what? I taught kids about Mt. Vernon and Jamestown LONG before I ever visited either one. I never taught in Virginia, but, since moving here, I have visited Mt. Vernon and Jamestown--among other historical sites. Do I think it would have helped my teaching? Not really. I might have picked up some materials, since I taught prior to the internet. Am I glad I visited them? Absolutely.

And, for the record, teachers all across the country teach about Mt Vernon and Jamestown because they are a part of American history--not just Virginia history. They also teach about aeronautics without ever having visited the Air and Space Museum.

As for field trips, they have value to some kids--to others, not so much. Just go to the Smithsonian on a school day and watch. Some groups are attentive and learning, and others are running wild through the museums.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

My expectations of teachers have nothing to do with them visiting a few local/regional historic sites.

Seriously, the only one who cares about this is you, OP. Why not spend your energy worrying about things that matter.

i'm not OP. and there're two of us who care, sorry to disappoint.

Ok. There are at least two fools concerned about this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

These are not college professors tapping into their expertise. In elementary school they are teaching some basic facts that don't need to be verified with their own eyes. My kids learned about ancient China, Greece and Mali in elementary school. Yes, it's ok that the teachers didn't go there even once.

This thread is about VA history, not China.

The point remains.

yes because we expect nothing from our teachers.

If by "nothing" you mean "nothing ridiculous," you're right.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

These are not college professors tapping into their expertise. In elementary school they are teaching some basic facts that don't need to be verified with their own eyes. My kids learned about ancient China, Greece and Mali in elementary school. Yes, it's ok that the teachers didn't go there even once.

This thread is about VA history, not China.

The point remains.

yes because we expect nothing from our teachers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

My expectations of teachers have nothing to do with them visiting a few local/regional historic sites.

Seriously, the only one who cares about this is you, OP. Why not spend your energy worrying about things that matter.

i'm not OP. and there're two of us who care, sorry to disappoint.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower? is it ok to teach mount vernon but choose to not visit there even once? of course it is 'ok' because we should expect the bare minimum from our teachers... seriously why even bother sending kids to any field trips then? get a samsung VR headset and you can check off everything on your bucket list.

These are not college professors tapping into their expertise. In elementary school they are teaching some basic facts that don't need to be verified with their own eyes. My kids learned about ancient China, Greece and Mali in elementary school. Yes, it's ok that the teachers didn't go there even once.

This thread is about VA history, not China.

The point remains.