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Yes I am PP whose child goes to a Title 1 which is 70%hispanic and this is what I have experienced, too.
My son has a friend who is way younger than his half siblings and doesn't have siblings (blended family); so he gets much more attention than a typical hispanic child at our school. Still, I know college is not even on the family's radar. When I asked them about what they think about their child's future they said maybe professional soccer player, and when I said that private schools give out a lot of scholarships to spanish speaking kids they started talking about some school they wanted to send their child to, and it turned out to be an afterschool tutoring center.

This is not uncommon. Heck, my parents are from two English-speaking countries, and they still had trouble guiding my sibs and I through school in the US--the expectations for parental involvement are very different for middle/upper middle class, (mostly) white Americans, who typically have the wherewithal and know-how to adequately prepare there kids for college and beyond. Largely the same story for kids in SE DC. The common denominator is SES.

Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

In the words of Trump, "wrong". "Just wrong". Your antiquated and unfounded supposition that an entire ethnic group is intellectually inferior just isn't backed up by actual science. You know, the kind of science that supports that global warming is a real thing. And yes, there are plenty of studies and organizations which for decades have found a connection between the negative impact of low SES and school performance for a complex set of reasons.
Read. Learn. Grow.
http://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/education.aspx
http://www.ascd.org/publications/books/109074/chapters/How-Poverty-Affects-Behavior-and-Academic-Performance.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598751/

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

Because no one in their right mind would make their child live in a detention center for months while the deportation proceedings go on if their kid was a US citizen and didn't have to.

Because they think their kids are safer in the US than in the country they fled from, often to escape violence.

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Anonymous wrote:

Yes I am PP whose child goes to a Title 1 which is 70%hispanic and this is what I have experienced, too.
My son has a friend who is way younger than his half siblings and doesn't have siblings (blended family); so he gets much more attention than a typical hispanic child at our school. Still, I know college is not even on the family's radar. When I asked them about what they think about their child's future they said maybe professional soccer player, and when I said that private schools give out a lot of scholarships to spanish speaking kids they started talking about some school they wanted to send their child to, and it turned out to be an afterschool tutoring center.

This is not uncommon. Heck, my parents are from two English-speaking countries, and they still had trouble guiding my sibs and I through school in the US--the expectations for parental involvement are very different for middle/upper middle class, (mostly) white Americans, who typically have the wherewithal and know-how to adequately prepare there kids for college and beyond. Largely the same story for kids in SE DC. The common denominator is SES.

Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

In the words of Trump, "wrong". "Just wrong". Your antiquated and unfounded supposition that an entire ethnic group is intellectually inferior just isn't backed up by actual science. You know, the kind of science that supports that global warming is a real thing. And yes, there are plenty of studies and organizations which for decades have found a connection between the negative impact of low SES and school performance for a complex set of reasons.
Read. Learn. Grow.
http://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/education.aspx
http://www.ascd.org/publications/books/109074/chapters/How-Poverty-Affects-Behavior-and-Academic-Performance.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598751/

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Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

A destructive home environment can stifle the IQ. I've taught first graders who were very bright but had awful home environment. But, worry about home--having to care for baby siblings with mom passed out on the couch can do a lot to destroy learning opportunities. Unless you have witnessed this, you have no clue what can go on in the homes of some kids.

Then, if kid is removed from home and goes into Social Services care, they can be moved around constantly. Not very helpful to education.

Shhh another Dcum wants to believe they're part of a master Race.

Shhh another Dcum wants to believe they're part of a master Race.

Anonymous wrote:

Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

A destructive home environment can stifle the IQ. I've taught first graders who were very bright but had awful home environment. But, worry about home--having to care for baby siblings with mom passed out on the couch can do a lot to destroy learning opportunities. Unless you have witnessed this, you have no clue what can go on in the homes of some kids.

Then, if kid is removed from home and goes into Social Services care, they can be moved around constantly. Not very helpful to education.

Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

Anonymous wrote:American school is so easy that even a kid with a very average iq can do fine, provided they have a stable home and average parental involvement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes I am PP whose child goes to a Title 1 which is 70%hispanic and this is what I have experienced, too.
My son has a friend who is way younger than his half siblings and doesn't have siblings (blended family); so he gets much more attention than a typical hispanic child at our school. Still, I know college is not even on the family's radar. When I asked them about what they think about their child's future they said maybe professional soccer player, and when I said that private schools give out a lot of scholarships to spanish speaking kids they started talking about some school they wanted to send their child to, and it turned out to be an afterschool tutoring center.

This is not uncommon. Heck, my parents are from two English-speaking countries, and they still had trouble guiding my sibs and I through school in the US--the expectations for parental involvement are very different for middle/upper middle class, (mostly) white Americans, who typically have the wherewithal and know-how to adequately prepare there kids for college and beyond. Largely the same story for kids in SE DC. The common denominator is SES.

Common denominator is IQ, which is genetic. Not having a destructive home environment is certainly helpful. But this whole SES = school performance thing is such delusional BS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously the kids will either go to other relatives who can take them, or go into foster care, which is a safe and nurturing experience that will benefit them much more than staying with parents who are in the country illegally.

Oh, just kidding. It'll suck for the kids and it'll be one of the most, if not the most traumatic experience of their lives. The best thing parents who are here illegally can do is to legally name other people (who are here legally) to take their children if they are deported or detained.

Or take their anchor children with them. This isn't North Korea or Cuba, citizens are free to leave the country.

But where should the children go if the parents are citizens of different countries?

Why wouldn't the parents want to take their kids with them if they were deported?

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Anonymous wrote:The threat of deportation is just one of many crises that some students in this area deal with on a daily basis. One especially sad part is that even students whose parents have full legal documentation have to face this threat.

Bc? I mean there's a threat that the parents will be treated unfairly but they won't be deported - so as long as the parents aren't sharing stories of papers being demanded, how would kids know?

Anonymous wrote:Why would those who are here legally face deportation?

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary school runs parents education series (testing, reading, college readiness are some of the topics), with dinner served, transportation from another high poverty school provided, as well as childcare, and still many parents don't show up.

This is pathetic. Remember when we prided ourselves on independence? Thanks a lot, those who allowed us to be flooded with Third-Worlders.

Anonymous wrote:Our elementary school runs parents education series (testing, reading, college readiness are some of the topics), with dinner served, transportation from another high poverty school provided, as well as childcare, and still many parents don't show up.