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Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Would you say this of a boy? No, you wouldn't. You use that term as a way of suggesting leadership in girls is somehow a negative quality.
No, being bossy isn't good. Nor should a female child or otherwise have the term "bitch" thrown at her in a forum or otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Would you say this of a boy? No, you wouldn't. You use that term as a way of suggesting leadership in girls is somehow a negative quality.
No, being bossy isn't good. Nor should a female child or otherwise have the term "bitch" thrown at her in a forum or otherwise.

Don't speak for me. Yes, any person being bossy is being any form of pejorative that applies.

Bossy is NOT a leadership quality.

Honestly apologists like you are exactly why there are frequent threads in the Jobs forum with people saying they hate female managers. You encourage terrible behavior and claim it's leadership. You create an awful perspective of our gender.

Says the person who uses the term bitch to refer to young girls. But you're lying, you absolutely would not refer to a boy this way to refer to someone who likes to be in charge.
And you know that you never have.
As uncomfortable as it seems to be for you, your perception of women/girls is skewed in terms of what is acceptable language and behavior. It's why you immediately drew a parallel between a discussion about a "bossy" girl and the "problems" with female managers. Clearly you have some deep seated self loathing for your own gender...issues that you need to work out in therapy.
Being bossy is not a positive trait. Neither is using that kind of language about a child or backing up thinly-veiled misogyny in the subconscious hope of somehow distinguishing yourself as not "that" type of woman to the boys club.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Would you say this of a boy? No, you wouldn't. You use that term as a way of suggesting leadership in girls is somehow a negative quality.
No, being bossy isn't good. Nor should a female child or otherwise have the term "bitch" thrown at her in a forum or otherwise.

Don't speak for me. Yes, any person being bossy is being any form of pejorative that applies.

Bossy is NOT a leadership quality.

Honestly apologists like you are exactly why there are frequent threads in the Jobs forum with people saying they hate female managers. You encourage terrible behavior and claim it's leadership. You create an awful perspective of our gender.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Would you say this of a boy? No, you wouldn't. You use that term as a way of suggesting leadership in girls is somehow a negative quality.
No, being bossy isn't good. Nor should a female child or otherwise have the term "bitch" thrown at her in a forum or otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure it's not just normal girl bossiness? I have all boys and they say all girls are bossy in elementary school. I never hear about it anymore once they're in middle school. It seems to be a phase they all go through that works its way out.

This comment made me so, so sad. Boys are just as "bossy" as girls in ES. Girls get it metaphorically beat out of them by MS.

I don't think so. I see it myself and, having three boys, I'm around boys all the time. There's no comparison. Boys have their own annoying behaviors, and there are surely exceptions, but this is a girl thing. It just is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Anonymous wrote:The current trend of parents referring to their bossy or demanding children (boys or girls) as "CEO material" is hurting kids. You do not need to be bossy or mean to be a CEO. You need to be educated and able to engage and inspire people. In order to lead you must have people that trust and respect you to follow. I know several CEO's who treat all their employees as colleagues who contribute to the success of the company. Leadership is setting everyone up for success and not bossing them around or intimidating them. These kids that are being excused for being bossy or nasty will never become CEO's because no leadership or board will tolerate their behavior.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. My apologies to the parents of singletons, I didn't mean to say singletons can't share, but I mentioned she has multiple siblings to indicate that she isn't coddled at home, she doesn't get her way all the time. We don't excuse her behavior at all, it's been frustrating to deal with, which is why I'm looking for help.

When I say leader, I'm saying it because when I've asked mom friends for advice because I'm worried she's too bossy, my mom friends say "she's a natural leader". Her teachers have said this, too. She comes up with really creative exciting games and includes as many kids as possible, including kids who are shy and don't get asked to play a lot--this I feel is important info because she is not mean, she is incredibly kind. But her desire to create and lead a game drives her to want it to be exactly right, which leads her to be inflexible and then she gets frustrated when it doesn't go like she pictures it.

I hope this info gives a better picture of what's going on. Would still appreciate advice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Wow.

Wow all you want, bossy is not a leadership trait.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: to jump on the bandwagon, but OP, I do take issue with you implying that "only children" wouldn't know how to share/take turns by saying

She has siblings so she does have to take turns and share, that's not the issue, she's easy about things like that.

My only child has always had to take turns and share - probably more than yours because she is around adults a lot more and has to sit there and listen to adults talk and wait for an (according to her) excruciatingly long time.

Op did not imply only children don't know how to take turns. You are really reading into this. (I have an only child).

To other posters, I think op is talking about leadership in light of the newest philosophy that we must allow our daughters to be bossy, lest they lose the part of their personalities that would drive them to be CEOs in the future. Op seems to understand that meanness and bossiness will not win any friends. I don't see how op is condoning or excusing the behavior.

Being bossy is being a bitch. You don't need to be bossy to be a leader. If the idea is to be a dictator, then keep encouraging young girls to be bossy.

Wow.