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I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

NP but this is a weird line to draw. In our house, every piece of furniture is anchored to the wall because we have kids. Pictures are anchored too. I personally don't think curtains should convey (blinds yes though).

Anonymous wrote:Aside from the light bulbs, I bet many of these are the fault of movers wrapping up EVERYTHING they see. I've had movers wrap trash (separately from the trash can), curtain rods AND toilet paper.

Which is not to say an owner can give better direction and management of the move, but if you aren't paying attention, they will box up anything that isn't a wall.

eh, the movers don't unscrew, unbolt and take down fixtures and rods. Nor do they unscrew lightbulbs. That was the owner or the agent, one of the two.

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Anonymous wrote:

I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

The way ELFA works, the top bar is anchored to the wall but everything else hangs off of that and can be taken down without any tools - as easy as taking a coat hanger off of a rack. It's a gray area, but anyone who saw it when showing wouldn't necessarily know it wasn't anchored to the wall. So that's why I said take it down before showing - you're asking for problems if you leave it up when showing.

Aside from the light bulbs, I bet many of these are the fault of movers wrapping up EVERYTHING they see. I've had movers wrap trash (separately from the trash can), curtain rods AND toilet paper.

Which is not to say an owner can give better direction and management of the move, but if you aren't paying attention, they will box up anything that isn't a wall.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who spends a lot on curtains and light fixtures (mostly antiques, I don't take them all), I always write that those don't convey.

And garage shelving? That isn't built into the house, so why would you think that would convey?

Taking antique chandeliers with you is a lot different than unscrewing every single light bulb and taking those. Pretty petty.

If you can take it with you, I don't see what the issue is. I think its a bit bizarre but light bulbs are personal in terms of color and preference. I'd take my light fixtures but I'd replace them before I listed my house.

Our house was gross as it was an estate sale. Lots of things broken and missing as they cleared out the home in a hurry. We didn't care.

You're joking, right? Unless you've got a custom-colored and dimming light system through your entire house, your lightbulbs are NOT that personal, and it is petty as hell if you take the time to unscrew every single one and literally leave your old house in darkness. The one thing a buyer should be able to count on is that they can actually SEE the house they're moving into, their first task shouldn't have to be taking an account of every type of lightbulb needed in the house and dropping a few hundred on bulbs at the Home Depot. You're an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who spends a lot on curtains and light fixtures (mostly antiques, I don't take them all), I always write that those don't convey.

And garage shelving? That isn't built into the house, so why would you think that would convey?

Taking antique chandeliers with you is a lot different than unscrewing every single light bulb and taking those. Pretty petty.

If you can take it with you, I don't see what the issue is. I think its a bit bizarre but light bulbs are personal in terms of color and preference. I'd take my light fixtures but I'd replace them before I listed my house.

Our house was gross as it was an estate sale. Lots of things broken and missing as they cleared out the home in a hurry. We didn't care.

You're joking, right? Unless you've got a custom-colored and dimming light system through your entire house, your lightbulbs are NOT that personal, and it is petty as hell if you take the time to unscrew every single one and literally leave your old house in darkness. The one thing a buyer should be able to count on is that they can actually SEE the house they're moving into, their first task shouldn't have to be taking an account of every type of lightbulb needed in the house and dropping a few hundred on bulbs at the Home Depot. You're an idiot.

I wouldn't expect toilet paper any more than I'd expect freshly laundered towels.

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Anonymous wrote:All the toilet paper. We have always left at least one roll of toilet paper in the house. Just common curtesy

Right?! This happened to us, too. Also wasn't pleased at a giant hole in a wall, that had been covered by artwork.

It's ridiculous to expect someone to leave toilet paper in the bathrooms. This isn't a hotel room. Yes, they shouldn't rip the holder out of the wall but I wouldn't even want someone's half-used toilet paper roll.

Custom window treatments, a couple thousand dollars worth, even though they were supposed to convey in the contract.

We only noticed this during the walk-through about an hour before the closing. We informed them of this and they wouldn't budge (they were relocating and had all their stuff in the moving truck already). Our realtor told them to expect a small-claims-court summons in the mail. They still wouldn't budge. Finally the sellers' agent just wrote us a personal check for the amount they were worth at closing (she was just as fed up with them as we were), simply so she could be done with those jagoffs.

Anonymous wrote:Their CAT!!

They gave it to a neighbor, and as an outdoor cat, it lurks in our yard and constantly begs to come 'home.' It even dashed inside our house once and I had to catch it.

Ugh, how cruel to the animal, and to you who has to deal with this and cat poop in the yard. I'd catch it and take it to a shelter.

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Anonymous wrote:

I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

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Anonymous wrote:Their CAT!!

They gave it to a neighbor, and as an outdoor cat, it lurks in our yard and constantly begs to come 'home.' It even dashed inside our house once and I had to catch it.

I mean, I expected them NOT to leave this!

We looked at a house ones where the cats conveyed. It was in the listing and I thought it was pretty bizarre that they would leave their animals behind .

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I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people bother to take light bulbs! The last thing I want to do is move more stuff.

Taking the light bulbs, shower curtain rods, drapery rods, blinds, smoke detectors and....leaving a slowly dying fish in the highest kitchen cabinet....would all be indicators to me that the seller had a Big Time problem with the buyer.

I also can't imagine an amiable seller taking all of the window treatments w/o being clear to the buyer that they did not convey.

I can't believe people bother to take light bulbs! The last thing I want to do is move more stuff.