I think the one thing I could never ever understand is how could a woman convert? I mean I think about myself being born and raised a Protestant my whole life, and suddenly someone expects you to change and wipe that off the map because he purports to "love you". Sorry that is not love. And what makes his religion of Judaism so much better? I cite this because this scenario seems to be the most common one in which a husband expects his wife to convert. You rarely hear this about other religions.

And then to convert to a religion so steeped in wrong doing as they have done with the Palestinians, and a religion widely disliked, why would I want to bring a kid into that?

And I say this not only about Judaism but ANY religion, no man is worth converting for and I would run far far away if anyone asked me for as much. Only know one person who did this and lived to very much regret it, left with 3 young kids to raise.

I do want to note since the comments have veered off toward race, that the reason I wanted a Jewish husband was that the religion is important to me, and I wanted my home to be a Jewish one ( and I mean with Shabbat etc and not with a special fondness for Woody Allen)

Anonymous wrote:Basically, this woman is saying to total stranger:


"I know a self-hating Jew! Would you like to date him? I can make it happen!"

Wow, what a catch.

Ha!

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Anonymous wrote:Your friend is inappropriate. I'm not sure what her goal was by telling your other friend that her male friend is not attracted to "typical looking Jewish women." I sure wouldn't want to date a jerk like him. Wouldn't that be a turnoff? Why would she even bring him up in the first place? She is making him out to be a complete and utter ass.

So many Jewish guys are like this. My ex was Jewish and he dated me because he liked how I looked. He would tell me that his parents wanted him to marry someone Jewish but he did not think they were pretty enough for him. He would make me feel like shit because I was not Jewish and the Jewish girls he met feel like shit because he didn't think they were attractive enough for him. Looking back it makes me sick I spent time with this jerk.

And yet, here you are talking about him.

Are you in a Phillip Roth novel?

Anonymous wrote:And to finish the story- we broke up because I would not convert. He ended up with a Jewish girl and they got engaged. It made his family happy. But in the end he could not go through with the wedding and called it off three weeks before. He then found himself another non Jewish girl he felt was attractive enough for him and was able to get her to convert. So he got what he wanted- a girls that was pretty enough for him that he could make Jewish.

Winners win.

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Anonymous wrote:Just let the lady remain single.
Not a lot of good jewish men around. A lot are jerks

Jewish men make the best husbands. My mother used to say that. And no, having Jewish heritage I would not be offended. Jews are like that - kvetchy.

Don't stereotype.

I know many Jewish husbands and and agree they do make great husbands and dads. Really outgoing and fun, always up to doing things. BUT do believe that many Jews believe in supporting other Jews, they feel they are dying and need to preserve and keep pure their race. A good Jewish friend whose parents are this way explained it to me, she rebelled against it and married a wonderful Irish guy ad their kids are being raised Catholic to her parents horror.

Religion often sucks because it tears people apart.

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Anonymous wrote:The other thing that is somewhat irksome (but not totally) is the assumption that because the law partner is Jewish and the woman in question is Jewish they should be set up. That's such a flimsy basis for matchmaking.

Really? Every Jewish friend I have had told me on a weekly basis how they needed to marry someone Jewish. I dated a Jewish guy for four years and he and his parents told me on a weekly basis how we could only get married if I would convert. I did not.

Well, your Jewish friends are atypical because a very large percentage of us do marry outside the faith.

They are not atypical. My ex also told me how important it was for their family to always give their business to other Jews. They would only go to Jewish doctors, dentists, colleges with high % of Jews, etc. As a Catholic I was shocked. I would never have picked a dentist because they were Catholic.

This has been my experience as well...best friend in college, long term boyfriend (who I never married because of his religion or rather his parents and THEIR thoughts on religion) and yes they are all about "Jews for Jews' they believe in supporting each other in every realm possible. I am sure there are exceptions of course....but ironic that both my best friend in college and ex boyfriend whose families very much practiced that mindset ended up marrying non Jews and in fact same with their siblings, go figure.

She should not be offended. She should be glad she knows the truth about how this man feels so she does not waste her time with him. If she dates him and he dumps her because he doesn't think she is hot enough for him she can never say she was not forewarned! Sometimes the truth hurts but will save you in the end.

And to finish the story- we broke up because I would not convert. He ended up with a Jewish girl and they got engaged. It made his family happy. But in the end he could not go through with the wedding and called it off three weeks before. He then found himself another non Jewish girl he felt was attractive enough for him and was able to get her to convert. So he got what he wanted- a girls that was pretty enough for him that he could make Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:Your friend is inappropriate. I'm not sure what her goal was by telling your other friend that her male friend is not attracted to "typical looking Jewish women." I sure wouldn't want to date a jerk like him. Wouldn't that be a turnoff? Why would she even bring him up in the first place? She is making him out to be a complete and utter ass.

So many Jewish guys are like this. My ex was Jewish and he dated me because he liked how I looked. He would tell me that his parents wanted him to marry someone Jewish but he did not think they were pretty enough for him. He would make me feel like shit because I was not Jewish and the Jewish girls he met feel like shit because he didn't think they were attractive enough for him. Looking back it makes me sick I spent time with this jerk.

And yet, here you are talking about him.

Yes. Because it makes my blood boil to have been referred to as a shiksa. His arrogance that he was smarter than people because he was Jewish and went to an Ivy and wanted to work on Wall Street. He would discuss endlessly about the importance of marrying Jewish but didn't think they were good looking enough for him. I was very naive about how Jewish people can treat non Jews. What I would want is those years back not him!

Anonymous wrote:Just let the lady remain single.
Not a lot of good jewish men around. A lot are jerks

Jewish men make the best husbands. My mother used to say that. And no, having Jewish heritage I would not be offended. Jews are like that - kvetchy.

Just let the lady remain single.
Not a lot of good jewish men around. A lot are jerks

Basically, this woman is saying to total stranger:


"I know a self-hating Jew! Would you like to date him? I can make it happen!"

Wow, what a catch.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your friend is inappropriate. I'm not sure what her goal was by telling your other friend that her male friend is not attracted to "typical looking Jewish women." I sure wouldn't want to date a jerk like him. Wouldn't that be a turnoff? Why would she even bring him up in the first place? She is making him out to be a complete and utter ass.

So many Jewish guys are like this. My ex was Jewish and he dated me because he liked how I looked. He would tell me that his parents wanted him to marry someone Jewish but he did not think they were pretty enough for him. He would make me feel like shit because I was not Jewish and the Jewish girls he met feel like shit because he didn't think they were attractive enough for him. Looking back it makes me sick I spent time with this jerk.

And yet, here you are talking about him.