Anonymous
01/02/2017 19:25
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:I hope you're not friends anymore. She's likely going to disappoint you in so many other ways.
I however might like to be friends with her in your place. Anyone who can handle a room full of 10 year olds day after day has some amazing qualities I'd like to learn from!
Ass kiss.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 18:32
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
I hope you're not friends anymore. She's likely going to disappoint you in so many other ways.
I however might like to be friends with her in your place. Anyone who can handle a room full of 10 year olds day after day has some amazing qualities I'd like to learn from!
I however might like to be friends with her in your place. Anyone who can handle a room full of 10 year olds day after day has some amazing qualities I'd like to learn from!
Anonymous
01/02/2017 17:24
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She was on the spot.
You misspelled wrote. What's your excuse? How's that feel?
Clearly OP's was a typo. She got it correctly in the body. The teacher doesn't know this fact and it is concerning but not surprising.
Excuses, excuses ... OP is making judgements about one moment with one person so the rest of us cannot also make judgements about OP? Sigh.
OP here. I try to eliminate typos as much as possible and if I make one, I own it. If you don't want to address the substance of my post, fine. Move on.
Np here. That is addressing the substance of your post. We know nothing about you but this post. You made an error and we're judging you for it. You don't know much about this teacher, but you're judging her for not knowing the author of one book. You know that you are better than that typo, we're saying that elementary school teacher shouldn't be judged as deficient because she didn't know Dickins in a trivia game. Don't want to be judged? Don't be so judgemental yourself.
Clap, clap, clap!! +10000
Anonymous
01/02/2017 16:52
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
I need to read it again. We read it in 9th grade English class in my NY state public high school, right after The Scarlet Letter (ok, so I skipped over the Custom House Sketch ... ). It doesn't bother me that an elementary school teacher would not know this -- maybe she read Billy Budd instead of Great Expectations -- but it would be horrifying if an English teacher wasn't familiar with Great Expectations.
And Miss Havisham was completely creepy! Still can't believe //SPOILER ALERT// that she wasn't Pip's benefactor.
I love a spoiler alert for a book written 150 years ago!
I agree re the spoiler alert. Very cute! I am the teacher who posted previously. I am a voracious reader but mostly non-fiction. In any event, I am intrigued because of the PP's recap and may decide to read the book one day. That should cause sighs of relief all around, I hope!
Anonymous
01/02/2017 16:51
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
I need to read it again. We read it in 9th grade English class in my NY state public high school, right after The Scarlet Letter (ok, so I skipped over the Custom House Sketch ... ). It doesn't bother me that an elementary school teacher would not know this -- maybe she read Billy Budd instead of Great Expectations -- but it would be horrifying if an English teacher wasn't familiar with Great Expectations.
And Miss Havisham was completely creepy! Still can't believe //SPOILER ALERT// that she wasn't Pip's benefactor.
I love a spoiler alert for a book written 150 years ago!
Ugh! It is such a good book, you shouldn't have included the spoiler. The opening scene in the graveyard is amazing. It was written for the masses as a weekly serial - released weekly over 9 months. Then compiled into a book. It was is well regarded by literary critics and the general public. It is a shame public school kids are rarely assigned classic books to read. The few that are assigned often have the least challenging vocabulary. I am not surprised the teacher didn't know, I am surprised the OP is surprised the teacher didn't know. Here is a link to a free copy of the book. Read the first chapter and you will be hooked.
https://read.amazon.com/nc/?kcrFree=only&asin=B007679L8M
Anonymous
01/02/2017 15:12
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
I need to read it again. We read it in 9th grade English class in my NY state public high school, right after The Scarlet Letter (ok, so I skipped over the Custom House Sketch ... ). It doesn't bother me that an elementary school teacher would not know this -- maybe she read Billy Budd instead of Great Expectations -- but it would be horrifying if an English teacher wasn't familiar with Great Expectations.
And Miss Havisham was completely creepy! Still can't believe //SPOILER ALERT// that she wasn't Pip's benefactor.
I love a spoiler alert for a book written 150 years ago!
Anonymous
01/02/2017 15:00
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
I need to read it again. We read it in 9th grade English class in my NY state public high school, right after The Scarlet Letter (ok, so I skipped over the Custom House Sketch ... ). It doesn't bother me that an elementary school teacher would not know this -- maybe she read Billy Budd instead of Great Expectations -- but it would be horrifying if an English teacher wasn't familiar with Great Expectations.
And Miss Havisham was completely creepy! Still can't believe //SPOILER ALERT// that she wasn't Pip's benefactor.
I know! Crazy!
For those of you who don't read books, Gillian Anderson does a great Miss Havisham: best version. (But the book is better and creepier).
Anonymous
01/02/2017 14:04
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
I need to read it again. We read it in 9th grade English class in my NY state public high school, right after The Scarlet Letter (ok, so I skipped over the Custom House Sketch ... ). It doesn't bother me that an elementary school teacher would not know this -- maybe she read Billy Budd instead of Great Expectations -- but it would be horrifying if an English teacher wasn't familiar with Great Expectations.
And Miss Havisham was completely creepy! Still can't believe //SPOILER ALERT// that she wasn't Pip's benefactor.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 13:55
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Miss Havisham, people. Miss Havesham. She makes Great Expectations WORTH reading: best villain ever. She lives in a creepy old mansion alone, wearing the tattered remains of the wedding dress she first put on years and years ago when her fiance stood her up on her wedding day. She had the clocks in her mansion stopped at that time, and has the wedding spread table still set out, moldering under cobwebs. And she's OBSESSED with getting her revenge on men. So obsessed that she takes a little orphan girl and raises her to be a heartbreaking temptress, keeping her isolated in the old moldy mansion so no outside influences will halt the corruption. AND THEN, Miss Havisham invites Pip, the main character, into the creepy old mansion to meet young Estella (the little girl Miss H has warped in the hopes of carrying out her revenge).
Read it, really. So, so good.
Read it, really. So, so good.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 13:36
Subject: Re:Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:I have three Master's Degrees and I am a 15+ year teacher who has taught elementary. I would have had no clue who wrote Great Expectations. I am not worried at all that I don't know this.
It is actually a pretty good read.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 12:48
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Charles Dickens was not just a novelist, he was part of the whole social improvement movement in the UK. He was an observer of society and all its idiosyncrasies, its faults and failings.
Great Expectations is in fact, one of his most famous works.
But I guess unless it was also a hit movie, you lot are going to think he's a minor writer and its just an "old book", which is why the US education system so dearly needs improving.
Great Expectations is in fact, one of his most famous works.
But I guess unless it was also a hit movie, you lot are going to think he's a minor writer and its just an "old book", which is why the US education system so dearly needs improving.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 12:39
Subject: Re:Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
misspells simple words in her handouts
Completely unacceptable. Beyond unacceptable
Anonymous
01/02/2017 12:38
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Op, this is the perfect place to post your concern. It's anonymous. It's not doing her any personal insult. However, more appropriate if this had been an observation in a professional setting, not a social one. That's kind of a low blow. As for scrutinizing education, yes, I do find her not knowing Dickens wrote Great Expectations disturbing. Though as long as she's thoroughly familiar with the political/literary importance of Dickens, I'd give her a pass.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 12:36
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
I don't think you need to be intellectual or even smart to be a good elementary school teacher. DD had one young K the with a sing-song voice, who misspells simple words in her handouts for parents and has some social communication issues with adults. But she does mostly fine with the kids and many seem to like her and more importantly they are learning a lot.
Anonymous
01/02/2017 12:23
Subject: Elementary teacher doesn't know Dickens rote Great Expectations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She was on the spot.
You misspelled wrote. What's your excuse? How's that feel?
Clearly OP's was a typo. She got it correctly in the body. The teacher doesn't know this fact and it is concerning but not surprising.
Excuses, excuses ... OP is making judgements about one moment with one person so the rest of us cannot also make judgements about OP? Sigh.
OP here. I try to eliminate typos as much as possible and if I make one, I own it. If you don't want to address the substance of my post, fine. Move on.
Np here. That is addressing the substance of your post. We know nothing about you but this post. You made an error and we're judging you for it. You don't know much about this teacher, but you're judging her for not knowing the author of one book. You know that you are better than that typo, we're saying that elementary school teacher shouldn't be judged as deficient because she didn't know Dickins in a trivia game. Don't want to be judged? Don't be so judgemental yourself.
Well said
+2. OP stepped into her own poo.
+ 3. I'm sure all of us know some basic facts that the OP doesn't.