Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

OP here. Yes this is it exactly. Everything at Disney was already so crowded, we were there with our two young kids and this was our experience every single time.

If you are going during the pre-Christmas period and during Christmas rush, it's going to be crowded no matter what. I love Disney and you couldn't pay me to go during December or the first week of January. Next time, go during the shoulder season like you have some sense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works with people with disabilities, I can tell you that what a Disney does for accessibility is unparalleled. Many families who could not manage a trip to the beach or almost any other popular vacation destination because of disabilities, can handle Disney.

As a result, many families where one member has a physical disability choose a Disney for repeated trips. The result is more scooters.

I can tell you that not all of these people were physically disabled. I am 100% certain of that.

And you know that how? My mother used a scooter at Disney. She didn't use one at other times. She had compression fractures in her bag that resulted in two back surgeries and could not sit or stand or lie down or maintain any single position for very long because of nerve damage and pain. She probably didn't look disabled to Judgy McJudgersons like you, but you have no idea how much pain she was in on a daily basis.

A scooter allowed her to enjoy a vacation with her grandchildren.

You really ought to be ashamed of yourself. You had the opportunity for a perfectly lovely vacation with your family, and you spent it being annoyed at other people instead of having fun. You are a sad, sad little man.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

OP here. Yes this is it exactly. Everything at Disney was already so crowded, we were there with our two young kids and this was our experience every single time.

+1. This was our experience too. Makes the shuttles take forever.

Anonymous wrote:So your attempt at badly disguised fat shaming thread didn't go exactly as you planned, did it OP?

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

OP here. Yes this is it exactly. Everything at Disney was already so crowded, we were there with our two young kids and this was our experience every single time.

I still don't get the problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Look, you're all correct!

A, more people need mobility assistance than you might think.
B, there are some people who could benefit from actual walking and exercise who choose not to do this.

So let it rest and be careful with those darn scooters.

How about

C) the many people who stay home because our society teaches them that using mobility aids is shameful rather than freeing, who could be enjoying an experience, and contributing to the economy but don't because of assholes like the OP.

D) the people who walk rather than rode because of that stigma, at a high cost in terms of pain and possible joint damage (and who end up stopping over and over again on the sidewalks because of it)

+1

Besides, even if someone wanted to drive around on a scooter out of sheer "laziness", who the F cares?

My little sister hates walking (yes, she hates walking) or hiking or anything involving distance. Guess what? Doesn't affect me in the slightest. If anything I feel bad for her for all the amazing hikes I've gone on that she's missed out on.

But to sit around judging someone and calling them lazy- get a grip!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

OP here. Yes this is it exactly. Everything at Disney was already so crowded, we were there with our two young kids and this was our experience every single time.

But maybe people with disabilities want to enjoy time with their young children as well. I have young kids and I also have MS. I don't need a wheelchair or even a cane most days but at Disney (especially if it was very hot) I might need to use a scooter. I'm also 20 pounds overweight. So I guess you'd assume I was in one because I am fat and lazy. Those assumptions keep me from doing things because I can feel the judgement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who works with people with disabilities, I can tell you that what a Disney does for accessibility is unparalleled. Many families who could not manage a trip to the beach or almost any other popular vacation destination because of disabilities, can handle Disney.

As a result, many families where one member has a physical disability choose a Disney for repeated trips. The result is more scooters.

I can tell you that not all of these people were physically disabled. I am 100% certain of that.

Since I was 18 I've had severe arthritis - from the middle of my back, down through my pelvis and hips, through my thighs, shins and in my ankles. I'm 40 now, and you still will never see me limping. But I have cried at night from how much pain I'm in at the end of a day filled with a ton of walking. My body picks up on changes in barometric pressure up to 150 miles away. So if it's raining one state over, I'm feeling it. And you would never, ever know. I do back walkovers, dance around with my kid, go bike riding, etc. But I can absolutely see myself needing a scooter. And you'd look at me and think "She's FINE!"

Not to minimize the awful pain you go through, but this is kind of amazingly awesome PP. You are like a superhero

Maybe Disney is totally different but I was just at universal studios and saw 0- count em- ZERO scooters over the course of the day.

Anonymous wrote:We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

OP here. Yes this is it exactly. Everything at Disney was already so crowded, we were there with our two young kids and this was our experience every single time.

Anonymous wrote:I understand the OP. I'm inclined to judge too because I know a person who was a faker at the parks because of the ability to jump lines. If that's not the case anymore, then good. But if there are any "perks" then it creates a bad incentive system.

Those privileges are gone.

The logic that you know one person who did something wrong, and therefore have the right to judge an enormous segment of society is mind blowing. The fact that someone has already justified it because those people aren't like "you and me" is even worse.

Imagine that I applied that logic to a group you belonged to.

"I'm inclined to judge mothers. I know a person who had a child out of wedlock with a married man. Therefore it's OK for me to stare at all mothers and speculate about whether they are sexually moral. It's OK, no one can prove that 100% of the women at Disney had their children under proper circumstances."

OP, you are right. While everyone acknowledges that there are disabilities and discomforts that make walking difficult or impossible, including you, it is obvious to everyone who doesn't have a chip on their shoulder about the topic that the use of scooters is over the top. It's not surprising either, given the obesity rates in the US.

We were there during the summer and scooters were everywhere. We stayed at a resort and took a shuttle to/from the Magic Kingdom. Half the shuttle is taken up with the scooters so you end up waiting extra long for an empty shuttle. Several times you have a large group with one person in a shuttle. The large group with the shuttle person would get to board first so they got a good chunk of the seats plus the damn shuttle is taking up seat space too. Grrr.......

To the earlier PP, there's no such thing as "overuse of scooters"...that is something you made up in your own little world.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To get a disability pass, you have to prove to them that you are disabled and its not easy. We got one a few years ago for our child. They gave us a hard time. I offered his evaluation and they refused it. I then said talk to my kid and they gave it right away. Its not as easy as you think.

I was thrilled to see the scooters out. Most were not riding the rides but there with kids/grandkids. That is one of the reasons to go is the accessibility and I'm happy to be inconvenienced over something like that.

This thread is not about disability passes which are completely different. This thread is also not about bashing disabled people. It's about an overuse of scooters.

What is the big deal with using a scooter? You don't know if someone needs it or not. If it makes a better trip for them, use it.