Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 16:47     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Honestly as someone who experienced date rape, it drives me crazy when people call this song "rapey". This song is NOT what rape is like, in ANY sense. And I dont believe that there would be a single rape victim who would ever suggest that what they experienced sounds like this song.

"Rapey" is offensive. Rape is rape, there's no such thing as something being "rapey", its not an adjective, its a verb. A violent verb, not a playful banter.

Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 14:20     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wants to leave, and he tries to convince her to stay and engaged in intimacy despite her continuing protests. At the very least, it's questionable and uncomfortable rather than romantic. Not a song I enjoy at all.


+1

Just because it is from a different era doesn't mean its meaning is any different.


+2

Lots of people who feel very attached and VERY defensive about a song that clearly has dubious consent, to put it mildly. No thanks olds- you can keep it.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 14:19     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Already discussed extensively here:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/347602.page

Soooo what? I wasn't there to discuss it. I'm sure other posters weren't either. No bfd, get you know?


On a side note, don't you HATE it when the forum patrol searches through the archives to resurect a three year old thread trying to get people to post there instead, then reports the thread to Jeff and asks him to lock the new thread?

I mean, I understand it there are two threads started the same day or week pointing it out and directing people there.

But pulling up a thread that is years old is just stupid.

Please PP, stop doing that with mundane topics like this. No one but you wants to join a thread about a Christmas carol or a kid's runny nose from 2013.




This person seems.... unhinged.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 14:18     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:These are the odd lyrics:

The neighbors might think (Baby, it's bad out there)
Say, what's in this drink (No cabs to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (Your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)

Read more: Christmas Song - Baby It's Cold Outside Lyrics | MetroLyrics


So odd that you think a song written so long ago is talking about slipping date rape drugs into a drink.

"Cabs" means exactly what it says. Cabs. As in taxicabs. The second singer is telling the first singer that there are no taxicabs outside right now.

Are you really this dense PP?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 14:14     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?

Hate that song whatever spin people put on it. It sounds discordant to my ears.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 12:51     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
These are the odd lyrics:

The neighbors might think (Baby, it's bad out there)
Say, what's in this drink (No cabs to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (Your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)

Read more: Christmas Song - Baby It's Cold Outside Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 12:29     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:Have any of you puritans even watched the original song?

The woman is the aggressor over the male.

The other woman is an equal to the male.

The song is about breaking societal norms and sexual empowerment of women, not date rape.

But it is also a cleverly written and fun song. Get your sticks out of your rears and learn some history millenials.

+1
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 11:51     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wants to leave, and he tries to convince her to stay and engaged in intimacy despite her continuing protests. At the very least, it's questionable and uncomfortable rather than romantic. Not a song I enjoy at all.


+1

Just because it is from a different era doesn't mean its meaning is any different.




But she doesn't want to leave. She only thinks she should go because of what others might think. If anything is wrong with the song it's that it takes place during an oppressive, overly puritanical time.


Like today's college campuses.


Really? People don't freely hook up in college anymore? I find that hard to believe.


+1
What are you talking about pp? Puritanical college campuses?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 10:29     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:She wants to leave, and he tries to convince her to stay and engaged in intimacy despite her continuing protests. At the very least, it's questionable and uncomfortable rather than romantic. Not a song I enjoy at all.





He tries to get her to stay awhile longer. Nowhere does it say he wants to engage in intimacy. Get your mind out of the gutter. I always envision them cuddling by the fire just awhile longer.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 10:22     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree also. This kind of over-the-top PC culture is what got Donald Trump elected. Yes, rape is a big problem, but not every attempt to seduce a woman (and I'm not sure this song goes so far as a seduction) = rape.


I voted for Trump and I think the song is rapey as hell. Not a fan.



You don't like a song because you think it's about a man being sexually aggressive with a less-than-willing female, yet you support Trump? Do you see the contradiction here?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 09:58     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Have any of you puritans even watched the original song?

The woman is the aggressor over the male.

The other woman is an equal to the male.

The song is about breaking societal norms and sexual empowerment of women, not date rape.

But it is also a cleverly written and fun song. Get your sticks out of your rears and learn some history millenials.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 09:56     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Say what's in this drink?"



+1. It's all about this. Using alcohol on the sly to seduce a woman.


No, actually, it's not. The phrase was often used at that time as a joke, to feign surprise and allow the speaker to blame his/her actions on alcohol that he/she didn't realise he/she was drinking. The man was not giving the woman alcohol without her knowledge. Please, read some history before you start making assertions.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 09:54     Subject: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wants to leave, and he tries to convince her to stay and engaged in intimacy despite her continuing protests. At the very least, it's questionable and uncomfortable rather than romantic. Not a song I enjoy at all.


+1

Just because it is from a different era doesn't mean its meaning is any different.




But she doesn't want to leave. She only thinks she should go because of what others might think. If anything is wrong with the song it's that it takes place during an oppressive, overly puritanical time.


Like today's college campuses.


Really? People don't freely hook up in college anymore? I find that hard to believe.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 09:29     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Because it's 2016 and we've become addicted to the feeling of being offended.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2016 09:24     Subject: Re: Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?
Anonymous wrote:"Say what's in this drink?"



+1. It's all about this. Using alcohol on the sly to seduce a woman.