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singledadmclean wrote:People have been leaving MD for VA for at least 40 years. The tax differential between the two states actually used to be larger.

People in Montgomery County won't admit it, but the "social" failures of Montgomery County are driving them out, especially education (every year SAT scores drop) and crime. The number of homicides, rapes, and assaults are all way up, in some cases double what they were 6-7 years ago. A lot more juvenile crime, too, which predicts even more adult violent crime in the future.

A PP had a post from an obviously biased right-wing site about Maryland that had actual data on immigration between the two states. Turns out almost the exact same number left VA for MD as the other way around.

Do you have any actual evidence for people leaving MD for VA?

Pretty sure WaPo does an article on this very topic ever year or two. Try google.

Anonymous wrote:

singledadmclean wrote:People have been leaving MD for VA for at least 40 years. The tax differential between the two states actually used to be larger.

People in Montgomery County won't admit it, but the "social" failures of Montgomery County are driving them out, especially education (every year SAT scores drop) and crime. The number of homicides, rapes, and assaults are all way up, in some cases double what they were 6-7 years ago. A lot more juvenile crime, too, which predicts even more adult violent crime in the future.

A PP had a post from an obviously biased right-wing site about Maryland that had actual data on immigration between the two states. Turns out almost the exact same number left VA for MD as the other way around.

Do you have any actual evidence for people leaving MD for VA?

If you actually read the thread, that information was provided. The number of people leaving MD for VA, and vice versa, is less relevant than the incomes they are taking with them. In the DC region, the money flow favors VA. And, since MD is a higher-spend state, it means the pressure to tax the wealthy to pay for it all only increases, so it's a vicious cycle. At some point proximity to Georgetown Prep and Burning Tree loses its luster when you're being taxed to death.

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming DOD? There are tons of lobbyists in FFX county (Great Falls). Plus Tysons businesses are pretty diverse.

Do you get that the lobbyists in NoVA and the 'diverse' business in Tysons and the Dulles Corridor are driven by DoD/GWOT spending?

If you know of a bunch of totally unrelated to DoD business in VA, by all means, tell us. But the 8,000lbs gorilla in NoVA is NatSec spending.

singledadmclean wrote:People have been leaving MD for VA for at least 40 years. The tax differential between the two states actually used to be larger.

People in Montgomery County won't admit it, but the "social" failures of Montgomery County are driving them out, especially education (every year SAT scores drop) and crime. The number of homicides, rapes, and assaults are all way up, in some cases double what they were 6-7 years ago. A lot more juvenile crime, too, which predicts even more adult violent crime in the future.

A PP had a post from an obviously biased right-wing site about Maryland that had actual data on immigration between the two states. Turns out almost the exact same number left VA for MD as the other way around.

Do you have any actual evidence for people leaving MD for VA?

Why is everyone blaming DOD? There are tons of lobbyists in FFX county (Great Falls). Plus Tysons businesses are pretty diverse.

People have been leaving MD for VA for at least 40 years. The tax differential between the two states actually used to be larger.

People in Montgomery County won't admit it, but the "social" failures of Montgomery County are driving them out, especially education (every year SAT scores drop) and crime. The number of homicides, rapes, and assaults are all way up, in some cases double what they were 6-7 years ago. A lot more juvenile crime, too, which predicts even more adult violent crime in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:The richest region in the entire area is inside route 28 and I270 and river road and north of the Poromac from poolesville to DuPont .

All the most expensive real estate , billionaires , best country clubs , best publics and privates are in this traditional DC region.

What "region" is this exactly, and who has defined or measured it as such? Aging country clubs do not define wealth or high HHIs in 2016, snookums. And the best public school in the DC region is TJ, hands down.

It's the rich and influential region of northwest DC and Montgomery County that billionaires choose because it's the most cultured and attractive.

Tj is a magnet school.

Sorry , but Whitman , Churchill , Holton , Sidwell , Stone Ridge , Visitation , National Cathedral , Landon , Georgetown Prep , Saint Albans , Georgetown Day

Congressional , Burning Tree , Chevy Chase , Columbia .

All the best stuff.

All the billionaires.

Bigly impressive, just not to the Census Department. For whatever reason, it thinks Montgomery is not keeping up.

Even when you drill down to the zip code level the top VA zip codes in the region > the top MD zip codes now.

There was another thread on high earners leaving MD for VA. It's been a trend for a while but I don't think MoCo is bad. Just MD politics forcing people to move. No one in Bethesda or Potomac wants to subsidize Baltimore or PG county anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:The richest region in the entire area is inside route 28 and I270 and river road and north of the Poromac from poolesville to DuPont .

All the most expensive real estate , billionaires , best country clubs , best publics and privates are in this traditional DC region.

What "region" is this exactly, and who has defined or measured it as such? Aging country clubs do not define wealth or high HHIs in 2016, snookums. And the best public school in the DC region is TJ, hands down.

It's the rich and influential region of northwest DC and Montgomery County that billionaires choose because it's the most cultured and attractive.

Tj is a magnet school.

Sorry , but Whitman , Churchill , Holton , Sidwell , Stone Ridge , Visitation , National Cathedral , Landon , Georgetown Prep , Saint Albans , Georgetown Day

Congressional , Burning Tree , Chevy Chase , Columbia .

All the best stuff.

All the billionaires.

Bigly impressive, just not to the Census Department. For whatever reason, it thinks Montgomery is not keeping up.

Even when you drill down to the zip code level the top VA zip codes in the region > the top MD zip codes now.

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Anonymous wrote:The richest region in the entire area is inside route 28 and I270 and river road and north of the Poromac from poolesville to DuPont .

All the most expensive real estate , billionaires , best country clubs , best publics and privates are in this traditional DC region.

What "region" is this exactly, and who has defined or measured it as such? Aging country clubs do not define wealth or high HHIs in 2016, snookums. And the best public school in the DC region is TJ, hands down.

It's the rich and influential region of northwest DC and Montgomery County that billionaires choose because it's the most cultured and attractive.

Tj is a magnet school.

Sorry , but Whitman , Churchill , Holton , Sidwell , Stone Ridge , Visitation , National Cathedral , Landon , Georgetown Prep , Saint Albans , Georgetown Day

Congressional , Burning Tree , Chevy Chase , Columbia .

All the best stuff.

All the billionaires.

Anonymous wrote:The richest region in the entire area is inside route 28 and I270 and river road and north of the Poromac from poolesville to DuPont .

All the most expensive real estate , billionaires , best country clubs , best publics and privates are in this traditional DC region.

What "region" is this exactly, and who has defined or measured it as such? Aging country clubs do not define wealth or high HHIs in 2016, snookums. And the best public school in the DC region is TJ, hands down.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-4-richest-counties-us-are-suburbs-dc

"Six of the Top 20 richest counties are in Northern Virginia. That gives Virginia twice as many counties in the Top 20 as any other state."

Richest counties in the U.S.:

1. Loudoun County, VA
2. Falls Church City, VA (independent cities are treated as counties)
3. Fairfax County, VA
4. Howard County, MD

The real shocker is that Montgomery County, MD has crashed all the way to 19.

Richest or biggest counties? They are all very large counties, with their share of top % tax payers. Lumped together. If you were to split up the tax payers and % by town - the results would be very different.

There would be no logic to doing this, since many of these areas have county-wide governments and there are no "towns," just mailing addresses.

The richest region in the entire area is inside route 28 and I270 and river road and north of the Poromac from poolesville to DuPont .

All the most expensive real estate , billionaires , best country clubs , best publics and privates are in this traditional DC region.

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery country and Maryland are in FREEFALL. This is quite SAD! The wealthy are fleeing the high taxes to the free land of the commonwealth!!!

Well, isn't this why you all elected Hogan? What's he doing about it?

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-4-richest-counties-us-are-suburbs-dc

"Six of the Top 20 richest counties are in Northern Virginia. That gives Virginia twice as many counties in the Top 20 as any other state."

Richest counties in the U.S.:

1. Loudoun County, VA
2. Falls Church City, VA (independent cities are treated as counties)
3. Fairfax County, VA
4. Howard County, MD

The real shocker is that Montgomery County, MD has crashed all the way to 19.

Richest or biggest counties? They are all very large counties, with their share of top % tax payers. Lumped together. If you were to split up the tax payers and % by town - the results would be very different.

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Anonymous wrote:Define "richest." Being high income can be very different than having wealth.

Agreed. Howard County ranks highly because it's a very solidly middle to upper middle class county with relatively few low income residents, unlike MontCo, which has many high networth households but also a large working population, especially in the eastern part of the county. MontCo is much more diverse. On paper Howard may have the higher average income, but MontCo definitely has a much higher concentration of wealth.

That is changing, but people hang on to their old beliefs.

No. That's actually true. I'm from HoCo. HoCo doesn't have many poor people. There is no great wealth, just high incomes with few poor people. MoCo has both extremes. There is no Potomac in HoCo. I guess I'm from the equivalent, Glenelg, but not the same.