Anonymous
10/29/2016 17:37
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:The owner was at fault for letting the dog run loose in a place where people can carry guns. The trigger happy yahoo doesn't win any points for shooting at the drop of a hat. The dog paid the ultimate price.
This. It wasn't a dog park.
I love dogs, but I have to throw myself in front of my DH when a strange dog rushes up to him off-lease; he was attacked as a child.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 17:33
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's ok to shoot the dog if the owner willingly let the dog off the leash vs. the dog slipping out?
That is not what people are saying. What people are saying here is that the owner intentionally left her untrained dog off the leash and is trying to play the victim after the dog went after someone aggressively and was shot. The owner is not a victim. This is entirely different than an owner who attempted to properly restrain the dog and the dog got out. The outcome may be the same, but in the first case, fault belongs to the owner and in the second case, it may not.
There were two crimes.
1. Dog off-leash
2. Animal cruelty/murder
Regardless if #1 happened or not, #2 happened and should be fully prosecuted. Either it's ok to shoot a playful dog in the park or it's not. Doesn't matter if the owner intentionally let it off the leash or if it was an accident.
Actually, an investigation found that the shooting of the dog was justified and no crime was committed.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 17:24
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:So it's ok to shoot the dog if the owner willingly let the dog off the leash vs. the dog slipping out?
That is not what people are saying. What people are saying here is that the owner intentionally left her untrained dog off the leash and is trying to play the victim after the dog went after someone aggressively and was shot. The owner is not a victim. This is entirely different than an owner who attempted to properly restrain the dog and the dog got out. The outcome may be the same, but in the first case, fault belongs to the owner and in the second case, it may not.
There were two crimes.
1. Dog off-leash
2. Animal cruelty/murder
Regardless if #1 happened or not, #2 happened and should be fully prosecuted. Either it's ok to shoot a playful dog in the park or it's not. Doesn't matter if the owner intentionally let it off the leash or if it was an accident.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 17:19
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
The shooter sounds unhinged. If the dog was jumping he could have tried yelling or throwing something. And the owner was running towards them. Just another dog-hating coward hiding behind a gun.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 17:05
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
So it's ok to shoot the dog if the owner willingly let the dog off the leash vs. the dog slipping out?
That is not what people are saying. What people are saying here is that the owner intentionally left her untrained dog off the leash and is trying to play the victim after the dog went after someone aggressively and was shot. The owner is not a victim. This is entirely different than an owner who attempted to properly restrain the dog and the dog got out. The outcome may be the same, but in the first case, fault belongs to the owner and in the second case, it may not.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 16:56
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Granted the dog shouldn't be off-leash, but if my dog accidentally slipped out of her harness in the park and some freakshow shot her I'd kill the guy. Without a second thought.
Dog was purposely left off leash and allowed to run far out of the sight line and control of the owner. A pack of two dogs was menacing the victims. The owners were too far away to intervene and the dogs were not responding to (far away) voice commands. The victim repeated called for the owner to help but the owner did not in any meaningful way. Dog was adult sized and not a "puppy" as claimed by theat fault owner. Owner was also at fault for purposefully deciding to allow her unresponsive and untrained dog to run free in a public park not meant for unleashed dogs.
VERY different from a dog slipping out of a harness your reach.
The owner is 100% at fault. The other person is a victim.
So it's ok to shoot the dog if the owner willingly let the dog off the leash vs. the dog slipping out?
Anonymous
10/29/2016 16:54
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Granted the dog shouldn't be off-leash, but if my dog accidentally slipped out of her harness in the park and some freakshow shot her I'd kill the guy. Without a second thought.
Really? You would murder another human who killed your dog in self defense?
Who is the nut job here?
Self-defense? What a fucking joke.
And, yes, I would not hesitate for a millisecond to kill someone who unnecessarily killed my dog. Guess I better get a gun and start carrying it around. Isn't that how it works? In case I feel threatened?
That guy jogging down the street looks likes he's coming to get me? Bam!
That guy who got a little too close to the crosswalk I'm in with his car? Bam!
That guy walking in the park at night - it is really dark and I think he gave me a threatening look? Bam!
I better get a lot of guns. Lots of threats out there.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 16:48
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Granted the dog shouldn't be off-leash, but if my dog accidentally slipped out of her harness in the park and some freakshow shot her I'd kill the guy. Without a second thought.
Really? You would murder another human who killed your dog in self defense?
Who is the nut job here?
Someone who shot my dog unnecessarily? Yes.
Guess I better get my own gun. A big one.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 16:47
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's the problem, the criminal was shot dead
The 10 month lab puppy?
Few people would consider a full sized lab a "puppy" particularly if it was off leash, away from its owner and acting aggressively towards you.
A 10 mo lab puppy might be tall, but isn't full weight yet. They are lean and still have a puppy look to them. And I find it hard to believe that it was aggressive to this crazy gun slinger. Annoying perhaps, but not aggressive.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 16:07
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the dog. She died because her owner is an idiot. The owner should be fined. If you can't control your dog and let if jump on strangers, then you are too stupid to have a dog.
+1000
It is not the responsibility of people out walking and minding their own business to have to figure out if a dog jumping on them and not under control is "just being friendly" or "just a puppy."
I feel terrible for the dog, but the woman is an entitled idiot.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 14:20
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if the owner of the dog had a gun and felt threatened by a man with a gun who shot her dog does she have a right to shoot him? Hes the one that pulled the gun in the first place right? That would make me feel threatened.
He was wrong, The dog should have been leashed yes, but the dog didnt bite anyone and wasnt even barking. People need to take the time to learn about animal behavior. A jumping dog doesnt mean its aggressive.
Investigators disagree with you. They found the dog to be aggressive and the shooting justified.
How do they determine a dead dog aggressive? Its dead!
By examining what you know about the dog, and what it was doing just before it was shot.
In much the same way, I can determine from your post that you are a complete effin' idiot.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 13:56
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
The owner was at fault for letting the dog run loose in a place where people can carry guns. The trigger happy yahoo doesn't win any points for shooting at the drop of a hat. The dog paid the ultimate price.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 09:00
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if the owner of the dog had a gun and felt threatened by a man with a gun who shot her dog does she have a right to shoot him? Hes the one that pulled the gun in the first place right? That would make me feel threatened.
He was wrong, The dog should have been leashed yes, but the dog didnt bite anyone and wasnt even barking. People need to take the time to learn about animal behavior. A jumping dog doesnt mean its aggressive.
Investigators disagree with you. They found the dog to be aggressive and the shooting justified.
How do they determine a dead dog aggressive? Its dead!
Anonymous
10/29/2016 08:39
Subject: Re:Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:So if the owner of the dog had a gun and felt threatened by a man with a gun who shot her dog does she have a right to shoot him? Hes the one that pulled the gun in the first place right? That would make me feel threatened.
He was wrong, The dog should have been leashed yes, but the dog didnt bite anyone and wasnt even barking. People need to take the time to learn about animal behavior. A jumping dog doesnt mean its aggressive.
Investigators disagree with you. They found the dog to be aggressive and the shooting justified.
Anonymous
10/29/2016 08:32
Subject: Loose dog shot in park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Granted the dog shouldn't be off-leash, but if my dog accidentally slipped out of her harness in the park and some freakshow shot her I'd kill the guy. Without a second thought.
Really? You would murder another human who killed your dog in self defense?
Who is the nut job here?
If I meet someone in the woods while I am walking my dog and he pulls a gun and shoots my dog can I shoot him in self defense?
I would be terrified. The dog didnt even bite anyone and was assumed aggressive. But he can pull a gun out and shoot it, and I cant protect myself from him? Crazy.