Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:33
Subject: Re:Help me choose: weak public with tutor, or catholic, or $40K private...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are in a similar situation and are going to try the local ms. Nobody ever got irrevocably damaged from a mediocre 6th grade, and if we're wrong he can apply to private next year.
Don't. We did same and our "top" student was so far behind in private school in 7th grade. Try to get kid caught up in 6th in private - much better.
I don't think our situations are the same unless our public school and local private options are the same. And same with OP. The devil is in the details.
Are you in Bethesda or Chevy Chase? That would make our situation more parallel.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 13:43
Subject: Re:Help me choose: weak public with tutor, or catholic, or $40K private...
We are in similar situation: live in DC, mediocre MS, spouse says move to Bethesda for schools, we are applying DC#2 to private (DC#1 in 7th grade public MS), plus we also have a DC#3 in public elementary.
We are applying to privates for #2 due to our horrendous experience with bullying of #1 at MS, including physical assault recorded on security cameras, constant "pranking" theft of personal property (this week was someone destroying math notebook prior to major unit test), lack of proactive communication from teachers when DC (waiting instead for mid-term report cards with D/F due to missing assignments), making i-Ready major portion of math grade because that is how DCPS central office tracks teacher performance, students watching "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" (first the live action version then the animated one) the past two days in "Science" class.
We love our neighborhood, appreciate not needing to commute and being able to walk to grocery, restaurants, kids taking Metrobus and walking to/from school and going to playground on their own. We have family and friends who have moved to MoCo "for the schools" and ended up going private anyway, plus paying higher RE taxes. (DH says we could just rent for 5-9 years.)
We have explored trying to move our 7th grader out of the MS even mid-year, and 8th grade is not an admission year for privates. (Catholic is not an option for our Jewish family.). However we are very concerned about educational gaps in what DC may not be receiving at the MS.
Our intermediate strategy for MS is to supplement the required lessons with tutoring for enrichment, as well as "coaching" DC to do more than just the required minimum. I'm now trying to figure out whether to go route of a college/grad student who can sit with DC#1 and also help with plotting out long-range assignments, or enroll in on-line Math (DC#2 is taking Art of Problem Solving Prealgebra, which is substantially plugging gaps in learning, including questions she encountered on ISEE as a 5th grader and was able to answer only because of AOPS). I am also looking into Writetopia. The MS does very little writing development, which parents have been complaining about for years.
Ironically I think DC#2 would likely thrive at the mediocre MS as this child is more of a self-starter, but the stories from #1's experiences and our overall frustration with DCPS central office management decisions have really turned us off. We really feel we have done a disservice to DC#1 by not taking seriously how bad the bullying was in 6th grade until the one episode that was captured on security cameras in late January of that year, after all the private school deadlines had passed. Our concerns until then had been dismissed by school leadership as typical "middle school years" behavior. I sincerely believe that if DC#1 loved school and was eager to go each day, the effort level would increase and teachers' encouragement would result in a virtuous cycle of high expectations/meet expectations/set higher expectations.
Would love recommendations for ways to help save our MS student's education. Some of the privates we have explored have suggested DC#1 apply as an incoming 7th grader, but the thought of one additional $35-40K tuition year makes me cringe.
We are applying to privates for #2 due to our horrendous experience with bullying of #1 at MS, including physical assault recorded on security cameras, constant "pranking" theft of personal property (this week was someone destroying math notebook prior to major unit test), lack of proactive communication from teachers when DC (waiting instead for mid-term report cards with D/F due to missing assignments), making i-Ready major portion of math grade because that is how DCPS central office tracks teacher performance, students watching "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" (first the live action version then the animated one) the past two days in "Science" class.
We love our neighborhood, appreciate not needing to commute and being able to walk to grocery, restaurants, kids taking Metrobus and walking to/from school and going to playground on their own. We have family and friends who have moved to MoCo "for the schools" and ended up going private anyway, plus paying higher RE taxes. (DH says we could just rent for 5-9 years.)
We have explored trying to move our 7th grader out of the MS even mid-year, and 8th grade is not an admission year for privates. (Catholic is not an option for our Jewish family.). However we are very concerned about educational gaps in what DC may not be receiving at the MS.
Our intermediate strategy for MS is to supplement the required lessons with tutoring for enrichment, as well as "coaching" DC to do more than just the required minimum. I'm now trying to figure out whether to go route of a college/grad student who can sit with DC#1 and also help with plotting out long-range assignments, or enroll in on-line Math (DC#2 is taking Art of Problem Solving Prealgebra, which is substantially plugging gaps in learning, including questions she encountered on ISEE as a 5th grader and was able to answer only because of AOPS). I am also looking into Writetopia. The MS does very little writing development, which parents have been complaining about for years.
Ironically I think DC#2 would likely thrive at the mediocre MS as this child is more of a self-starter, but the stories from #1's experiences and our overall frustration with DCPS central office management decisions have really turned us off. We really feel we have done a disservice to DC#1 by not taking seriously how bad the bullying was in 6th grade until the one episode that was captured on security cameras in late January of that year, after all the private school deadlines had passed. Our concerns until then had been dismissed by school leadership as typical "middle school years" behavior. I sincerely believe that if DC#1 loved school and was eager to go each day, the effort level would increase and teachers' encouragement would result in a virtuous cycle of high expectations/meet expectations/set higher expectations.
Would love recommendations for ways to help save our MS student's education. Some of the privates we have explored have suggested DC#1 apply as an incoming 7th grader, but the thought of one additional $35-40K tuition year makes me cringe.
Anonymous
11/26/2016 19:27
Subject: Help me choose: weak public with tutor, or catholic, or $40K private...
move
Anonymous
11/16/2016 16:09
Subject: Re:Help me choose: weak public with tutor, or catholic, or $40K private...
Vote for I catholic school
Anonymous
11/15/2016 05:58
Subject: Re:Help me choose: weak public with tutor, or catholic, or $40K private...
Anonymous wrote:Catholic.
However, plan on a tutor for a bit.
Some kids joined my nephew's class from a pretty good (not great) large public school and were behind in certain skills (note-taking, editing, managing multiple deadlines...) and parents said these skills weren't stressed at their last school.
This happens no matter which way you move. Different curriculum, different expectations.