I agree the problem is related to irresponsible owners breeding pits etc, and those giving up their problem dogs. Why should I be responsible for this? Plus we were denied by shelters etc because of young kids and jobs despite arrangements for the dog to be cared for during the day.

I agree with the adoption. / Foster comment. There are plenty of children who need homes yet people pay for IVF etc to get what they want. There is TONS of money involved here. What do you think of people paying for adoptions abroad instead of US children who need a home.

German Shepherd $2500

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.

OK... then find me a corgi. I live in the DC area.

http://www.pwcorgiclubgs.org/Regional-Pembroke-Welsh-Corgi-rescue-groups.htm

I clicked on your link out of curiosity and there appears to be a few puppies available (but nowhere near the DC area) and all of the adults are listed as adopted! (Which is great news!) So maybe those of you objecting to people buying dogs should be upset with people who ditch their dogs in shelters and at people who are irresponsibly breeding too many pit bulls and mixes. Because that's where the real problem is. Way too many pits.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

Not when I was looking for my dog. I also needed a dog that would be ok with children and in a small condo. Rescues are very restrictive and the shelters were full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I waited almost a year from the time I decided to get a dog and the day I got her. I got the perfect dog and she's going to be in my home forever. If I got a rescue dog, who knows if that would be the case.

Anonymous wrote:We adopted our last two dogs when they were 3 and 4 years old. They were a great addition to the family. One was diagnosed with Babesia, a tick disease. After thousands of dollars and many vet visits he was cured but I would not want that in a house with children. Dog gets a tick then child does and you have a sick child. Until a dog has blood work it is not known. Many shelters have tick problems and do not have the dogs tested. If you adopt have the dog tested before you bring it home. A family member did buy a French Bulldog from a breeder but she has the dogs genetically tested and does not run a puppy mill. Her waitlist is so long she could run a puppy mill if she wanted. She is inspected by several organizations and runs a tight ship.

Then don't get amimals at all. Everyone is prone to ticks..even your kid. And there is Frontline...can't put that on your kid, but you can put it on the dog. This argument has nothing to do with rescue dogs vs. Breeder dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.

OK... then find me a corgi. I live in the DC area.

http://www.pwcorgiclubgs.org/Regional-Pembroke-Welsh-Corgi-rescue-groups.htm

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.

OK... then find me a corgi. I live in the DC area.

If you give it some time, you can find a Corgi . I will find one for you, too. But this is the whole point. Why does it have to be a Corgi?

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What if I want a Vizla? Or a Standard Poodle?
What about an Airedale? Or an Irish Setter?
How about a Bernese Mountain Dog? Or a Scottish Deerhound? Or a Samoyed?

These are not rare breeds. But they are certainly not languishing in the shelters.

Also, a lot of the rescue organizations will claim that a dog is one "fill-in-the-blank" mix when, in reality, the dog is nothing of the sort. For example, do we really think that this dog (https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/35636540) is an cattle dog mix? No. They just want to label it something other than pit mix. When I got one of my dogs from Lost Dog and Cat Rescue about 8 years ago, they said he was a border collie and lab mix. Nope. We found out later that he was a brittany mix (with some pointer and beagle possibly thrown in).

OP, to answer your original question, we got our German Shepherd from a breeder for $800 eleven years ago.

So you want a rare breed of dog instead of a dog that would love a home. Again...you are a Gucci type of person...you want that expensive and sought after item. It is not about the dog, it's the status.
BTW...German Sheps also have a huge rate of cancer death, hemangiosarcoma as an example...because they are bred. And your demand for bred dogs is the reason. Please don't try to justify this practice. It' s cruel, it's fostering genetic illness in dogs, and it's fueling an unfortunate practice for money.

+1 to PP above.

What if I want a Vizla? Or a Standard Poodle?
What about an Airedale? Or an Irish Setter?
How about a Bernese Mountain Dog? Or a Scottish Deerhound? Or a Samoyed?

These are not rare breeds. But they are certainly not languishing in the shelters.

Also, a lot of the rescue organizations will claim that a dog is one "fill-in-the-blank" mix when, in reality, the dog is nothing of the sort. For example, do we really think that this dog (https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/35636540) is an cattle dog mix? No. They just want to label it something other than pit mix. When I got one of my dogs from Lost Dog and Cat Rescue about 8 years ago, they said he was a border collie and lab mix. Nope. We found out later that he was a brittany mix (with some pointer and beagle possibly thrown in).

OP, to answer your original question, we got our German Shepherd from a breeder for $800 eleven years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.

OK... then find me a corgi. I live in the DC area.

Anonymous wrote:I agree that there are disreputable breeders, but after recently going through the months-long adoption process, I am confident that there are equally disreputable shelters and rescues. We met one dog that we were told was "great with other dogs" who lunged aggressively at my gentle dog and didn't stop despite efforts on both ends to calm the dog, give it space, etc. Come to find out the foster wasn't able to take her for walks, so she actually had no idea how the dog got along with others. After telling the adoption coordinator, nothing on the website in the dog's description changed. We met another dog who was "good with all humans" who we learned from the foster was recently returned after snapping at a toddler. I then checked out a shelter who described one dog as wary of strangers, food/toy aggressive, and dog reactive. At least they were honest, but who can adopt that dog? I think rescues are so motivated to "save" dogs that they aren't forthcoming with dogs' weaknesses, which is potentially dangerous. After an initial 2-week honeymoon period, our rescue showed all sorts of aspects of personality that we didn't see in the beginning. I will probably never adopt a dog after this.

Sadly, I had a similar experience as a foster for a rescue (not in this area, thankfully). After several wonderful foster dog experiences, I had a really troubled dog placed in my home. He was terrified of all strangers, was fairly aggressive with protecting what he perceived as his home turf, did NOT get along well with most dogs (thankfully he loved my dog to pieces), was incredibly resistant to potty training/housebreaking, and was really an all around PITA. I was brutally honest with the rescue that this dog had a lot of issues and they needed to be very careful with his placement. I wrote a kind but honest profile for him, making it clear he was a project that would require a lot of work on the part of an adopter. Unfortunately, the rescue insisted on going with a glowing, "isn't he so perfect and cute" profile and were not honest with potential adopters. I think they thought it was all going to be ok since he was small and had the attitude of "how much harm could he really do" based on his size. After his first adoption ended returning him within 24 hours, I told them I couldn't foster for them anymore if they were going to be dishonest about his problems with potential adopters. They wouldn't change his profile or what they told adopters so I told them they needed to remove him from my home and remove me from their foster list.

We adopted our last two dogs when they were 3 and 4 years old. They were a great addition to the family. One was diagnosed with Babesia, a tick disease. After thousands of dollars and many vet visits he was cured but I would not want that in a house with children. Dog gets a tick then child does and you have a sick child. Until a dog has blood work it is not known. Many shelters have tick problems and do not have the dogs tested. If you adopt have the dog tested before you bring it home. A family member did buy a French Bulldog from a breeder but she has the dogs genetically tested and does not run a puppy mill. Her waitlist is so long she could run a puppy mill if she wanted. She is inspected by several organizations and runs a tight ship.

I agree that there are disreputable breeders, but after recently going through the months-long adoption process, I am confident that there are equally disreputable shelters and rescues. We met one dog that we were told was "great with other dogs" who lunged aggressively at my gentle dog and didn't stop despite efforts on both ends to calm the dog, give it space, etc. Come to find out the foster wasn't able to take her for walks, so she actually had no idea how the dog got along with others. After telling the adoption coordinator, nothing on the website in the dog's description changed. We met another dog who was "good with all humans" who we learned from the foster was recently returned after snapping at a toddler. I then checked out a shelter who described one dog as wary of strangers, food/toy aggressive, and dog reactive. At least they were honest, but who can adopt that dog? I think rescues are so motivated to "save" dogs that they aren't forthcoming with dogs' weaknesses, which is potentially dangerous. After an initial 2-week honeymoon period, our rescue showed all sorts of aspects of personality that we didn't see in the beginning. I will probably never adopt a dog after this.

Anonymous wrote:Agreed - Petfinder.com is a great resource for finding the breed you want.

I get people that have special needs using a breeder. It would be difficult to find a hypoallergenic dog. Outside of that, I think it's pretty selfish and irrespsonsible to support breeders.

I tried to work with three different rescues from Petfinder. We were denied (after their challenging application process - references, etc...) each time because we have young children and we are military. We then tried to adopt through a shelter and were denied for reasons they wouldn't even specify.

We went through a breeder. She interviewed us, we sent her pictures of our fenced yard, etc... It was so much easier. Much more expensive but easier. We started to feel like freaks being denied a dog by so many charities!

Agreed - Petfinder.com is a great resource for finding the breed you want.

I get people that have special needs using a breeder. It would be difficult to find a hypoallergenic dog. Outside of that, I think it's pretty selfish and irrespsonsible to support breeders.