Anonymous
09/20/2016 16:42
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:An A (or BCDF) reflects how well the student masters the content for a particular class. You can absolutely get an A in math 10 and should to reflect your work in that class.
My kid got a certificate for finishing her first 5k. She didn't run as far as her sister who ran a half marathon. Was it wrong to celebrate the 10 year old because she did less?
Anonymous
09/20/2016 16:38
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:Gpa is a much better predictor of college success than the sat.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/02/21/a-telling-study-about-act-sat-scores/
This is a wapo article but it cites the study.
That study is about test optional schools. I don't know about all of them but I can see why Wake Forest has the same results with or without SATs. My DC interviewed there and they asked all sorts of questions about courseload, grades, and AP scores. I think that they are making the assumption that rigorous courses probably equals high SATs in most cases.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 16:34
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't even understand the suggestion. That if you are not in an Honors/AP course you get the max of a B?
Yes, to send a real signal to parents and students the class is not anywhere near par for college prep. All these phony A's (and B's) just create a false sense of accomplishment.
The "accomplishment" is supposed to be learning something/mastering the material that is taught. If you master the material in a non-honors level course, you get an A. Is this really so hard to understand? OP, I think you might need to be demoted back down to non-honors level DCUM.
The issue is colleges accept them with inflated GPAs and shitty test scores and they all inevitably fail out. Why? Because kids and parents were conned into thinking they were prepared for college due to inflated GPAs. What you get is millions of kidding tapping $30k 50k 75k in loans with no degree or way to ever pay it back. Almost worse than the loans is kids who guilt trip their gullible parents out of cash for college because "I got A's and B's!"
Anonymous
09/20/2016 16:32
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:If a student masters the material in a class and meets the criteria, they get an A. That is how it works.
What planet is the OP on?
How to get a B in non honors courses:
- Show up.
- Turn in homework.
How to get an A:
- Show up.
- Turn in homework.
- Sweet talk teacher and/or do decent on tests.
They're not mastering anything. They nor their families comprehend there's a 40-50% gap in the material they're being taught. It's a farce, a con job.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 13:07
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
As my boot camp instructor used to say: "cream of the crop versus the cream of the crap."
Anonymous
09/20/2016 11:53
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These days, all high school courses are on the college track. The AP courses are on the college level, which is why passing the AP test can earn college credits.
Except that selective universities (particularly the private ones) have little to no incentive to offer college credits for AP. The University of Nebraska may give you credit, but that doesn't mean Dartmouth will.
Dartmouth actually gives credit for more than 20 AP exam grades or 4 or 5 and exempts you from entry level work for others. You can look credit policies for every university on the College Board website https://apstudent.collegeboard.org/creditandplacement/credit-policy-detail?diCode=3351&orgId=3300&name=Dartmouth%20College&address=Hanover%2C%20NH
Except those credits don't count towards the 35 you need at Dartmouth -- so what are they really worth?
"Credit on entrance appears on the Dartmouth transcript, however it does not count towards the 35 credits required to graduate."
it frees up your tie so you can take really cool classes that will make your life experience better?
Anonymous
09/20/2016 11:46
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't even understand the suggestion. That if you are not in an Honors/AP course you get the max of a B?
Yes, to send a real signal to parents and students the class is not anywhere near par for college prep. All these phony A's (and B's) just create a false sense of accomplishment.
The "accomplishment" is supposed to be learning something/mastering the material that is taught. If you master the material in a non-honors level course, you get an A. Is this really so hard to understand? OP, I think you might need to be demoted back down to non-honors level DCUM.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 11:31
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a student masters the material in a class and meets the criteria, they get an A. That is how it works.
What planet is the OP on?
Because of they way grades are now calculated, I have no faith that an A means students have mastered the information. In DCPS, HS grades are
40% assessments. (Minimum 4/quarter)
50% practice and application (Minimum 5/quarter)
10% participation. (Minimum 2 observations/ quarter )
A lazy teacher has the discretion to have each assignment/test worth 10% of a student's grade for the QUARTER...talk about high stakes.
Basically it's damn near impossible to fail in DCPS. So about the graduation rate going up...
Anonymous
09/20/2016 11:22
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:OP, yours is hands down the stupidest post I have ever seen on DCUM, which really is saying something. You should get a certificate.
Because OP doesn't deserve an A.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 11:11
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:If a student masters the material in a class and meets the criteria, they get an A. That is how it works.
What planet is the OP on?
Because of they way grades are now calculated, I have no faith that an A means students have mastered the information. In DCPS, HS grades are
40% assessments. (Minimum 4/quarter)
50% practice and application (Minimum 5/quarter)
10% participation. (Minimum 2 observations/ quarter )
A lazy teacher has the discretion to have each assignment/test worth 10% of a student's grade for the QUARTER...talk about high stakes.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 10:42
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
If a student masters the material in a class and meets the criteria, they get an A. That is how it works.
What planet is the OP on?
What planet is the OP on?
Anonymous
09/20/2016 10:33
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:I don't even understand the suggestion. That if you are not in an Honors/AP course you get the max of a B?
Yes, to send a real signal to parents and students the class is not anywhere near par for college prep. All these phony A's (and B's) just create a false sense of accomplishment.
Anonymous
09/20/2016 09:54
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
I don't even understand the suggestion. That if you are not in an Honors/AP course you get the max of a B?
Anonymous
09/19/2016 22:04
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:*after bombing ACT/SAT*
"My baby just doesn't test well... but I know she's real smart because she has a 3.79 GPA!"
Same can be said for all the "advanced" kids bombing all their AP exams.
Grades are so meaningless these days.
ACT/SAT/AP scores tease out the truth.
Anonymous
09/19/2016 21:51
Subject: Why do kids in "regular" courses get A's?
Anonymous wrote:*after bombing ACT/SAT*
"My baby just doesn't test well... but I know she's real smart because she has a 3.79 GPA!"
That's kind of like what the Wilson students/parents are saying about PARCC. I get that it was not what they wanted to be doing at the time, rather studying for AP, but if you are that smart reading a story and answering comp questions should not be that difficult.