Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 14:23     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
I heard on the radio that you need to be at least 14 to ride on this slide, yet the kid was only 10. How does this happen? Starts with parents who say yes, IMO
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 14:21     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 14:11     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


That was my thought, too. It's hard to believe none of the engineers could foresee what would happen if someone hit the net.


I hate to write this, but since you've chosen to read this far into the thread. . . Some have said that he was decapitated by the netting or the metal framing for the netting. There was blood pooled in the water at the the bottom of the track.
I've read a few articles on this and none of them and none of the witnesses mentioned that. It's possible that it's just not being reported at this point but all of them said he was laying on they ground and they saw him laying there when the paramedics pulle a white sheet over him. Seems like if he were decapitated they wouldn't have necessarily known it was a boy and the witness statements might have been different. But in definitely not an expert on any of this.


No one tried to revive him as it was apparent that he was dead. One of the women in his raft had blood on her face.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 14:08     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any reports on who the other two riders on his tube were?


On the AMA thread from someone who has ridden that water slide before, that OP says it was 2 women and he likely didn't even know them.


If it were two women and a ten year old boy (he was skinny from his pictures) how would they have hit the minimum weight?


They probably didn't.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 14:05     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any reports on who the other two riders on his tube were?


On the AMA thread from someone who has ridden that water slide before, that OP says it was 2 women and he likely didn't even know them.


If it were two women and a ten year old boy (he was skinny from his pictures) how would they have hit the minimum weight?
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 13:59     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:Any reports on who the other two riders on his tube were?


On the AMA thread from someone who has ridden that water slide before, that OP says it was 2 women and he likely didn't even know them.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 13:17     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


That was my thought, too. It's hard to believe none of the engineers could foresee what would happen if someone hit the net.


I hate to write this, but since you've chosen to read this far into the thread. . . Some have said that he was decapitated by the netting or the metal framing for the netting. There was blood pooled in the water at the the bottom of the track.


http://heavy.com/news/2016/08/caleb-scott-melanie-schwab-schlitterbahn-verruckt-kansas-city-water-park-slide-accident-death-dies-parents-father-photos-video/

I watched the news footage in this link and it shows that two or three of the structural bars on the netting are bent. So yeah, I imagine the result of that is pretty gruesome.

But seriously, hitting the net would be my very first thought just looking at that slide, but I'm a what's-the-worst-that-could-happen kind of mom. Engineers didn't think of it? That thing should be closed down for good. I can't imagine anyone letting their kid go on it again.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 13:02     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Any reports on who the other two riders on his tube were?
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:51     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


Netting under roller coasters is pretty standard to keep things like cell phones that fall out of people's hands from hitting people below. I wonder if that was the thinking. I can't imagine they thought the netting was a solution to people coming out of their seats. Seems like the harness/seatbelt is the solution to that.


I think the key word is under. There are videos of people riding it and the netting and framing is pretty darn close to people's heads. In hindsight, it seems extremely dangerous.


I am not saying it was a good idea, just that I can't believe that they anticipated people flying all the way out of their seats, hitting netting, and then returning to a safe sitting position. There is no way the netting was designed to solve that particular problem.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:46     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There were some delays in opening the slide back in 2014, but that was just with the system getting the rafts up to the top.


No there were also issues with the "test dummies" flying off. The principles were based on roller coasters which didn't work exactly the same for water. It sounds as though this ride wasn't safe to start with.

My heart aches for the family.


I think that the Travel Channel had a documentary about when the slide was built and all of the issues with building and opening it. Originally they had it almost built but then had to tear a bunch of it down and rebuild due to test dummies launching into the air during testing. My whole family loves rollercoasters and waterslides, but we watched the show and thought "what the hell". It's just awful.

Here's from the USA Today article: "We had many issues on the engineering side," said Henry, who owns 60 patents for innovations such as land-based water surfing and uphill water coasters.

After the Guinness Book of World Records certified Verrückt as the world's tallest water slide, Henry tore down half of it to make corrections, delaying the planned opening and costing an additional $1 million, USA TODAY reported. Testing was conducted after dark to avoid media helicopters that had been buzzing the park after hours.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:42     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


Netting under roller coasters is pretty standard to keep things like cell phones that fall out of people's hands from hitting people below. I wonder if that was the thinking. I can't imagine they thought the netting was a solution to people coming out of their seats. Seems like the harness/seatbelt is the solution to that.


I think the key word is under. There are videos of people riding it and the netting and framing is pretty darn close to people's heads. In hindsight, it seems extremely dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:40     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


Netting under roller coasters is pretty standard to keep things like cell phones that fall out of people's hands from hitting people below. I wonder if that was the thinking. I can't imagine they thought the netting was a solution to people coming out of their seats. Seems like the harness/seatbelt is the solution to that.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:36     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


True. And it looks like netting needs tone held in place by something like a pole. So probably the harness did not work (several news reports are saying this is an issue) or he was under the height requirement. So he flew up and hit the pole.

We love waterparks, but I have found that kids working there are often lax with rules. They probably have no idea of the consequences. And it is scary to hear that instead of designing this right they did trial and error. No sandbag is going mimic how a person may move on the ride.


That ride has probably been "tested" now tens of thousands of times. My guess is that something either broke, the child was not secured properly or did not meet the height requirement.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:33     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


That was my thought, too. It's hard to believe none of the engineers could foresee what would happen if someone hit the net.


I hate to write this, but since you've chosen to read this far into the thread. . . Some have said that he was decapitated by the netting or the metal framing for the netting. There was blood pooled in the water at the the bottom of the track.
I've read a few articles on this and none of them and none of the witnesses mentioned that. It's possible that it's just not being reported at this point but all of them said he was laying on they ground and they saw him laying there when the paramedics pulle a white sheet over him. Seems like if he were decapitated they wouldn't have necessarily known it was a boy and the witness statements might have been different. But in definitely not an expert on any of this.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2016 12:30     Subject: Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


True. And it looks like netting needs tone held in place by something like a pole. So probably the harness did not work (several news reports are saying this is an issue) or he was under the height requirement. So he flew up and hit the pole.

We love waterparks, but I have found that kids working there are often lax with rules. They probably have no idea of the consequences. And it is scary to hear that instead of designing this right they did trial and error. No sandbag is going mimic how a person may move on the ride.