Anonymous
08/02/2016 13:44
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stahl, Brehony, Cloud IX, Sommerville are all high-end builders, and won't build for $500-600K. At that price you are talking vinyl siding, etc. and that is not their sweet spot. Recent;y someone asked Stahl the exact same question and they said "yes, we can do it, but we are not the best for THAT." If you have developed a relationship with a supplier of higher-end product, and have special pricing for that product, it is hard to find the best deal for a cheaper, lower-end product. Best in that price range to check NDI and ANV (a family I know recently decided to go with NDI after doing this exact same research). Used to be, Evergreene would fit in there as well but they seem to have moved up the price range.
I know two friends who have built homes with Evergreene and Classic in Vienna. Neither builder used steel beams and posts in the basement. I would NEVER purchase from a builder who employs such aggressive cost cutting measures, regardless of price. I guess most homeowners don't even know so per code, if they can get away with saving a few $$ by eliminating a core structural component, then why not?
You don't need steel posts and beams in residential basements - per building code, so these builders are not violating anything, but perhaps cutting a corner as you indicate. I agree, however, and would not purchase or build one without
The only time you would need steel beams is if the span and load is wider/more than engineering tables would allow for a standard wood I-joist.
Not having them is not an indication of quality at all.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 10:25
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that this is the total cost of one those homes--lot and development. There are a couple going up for 1.7-1.9 now, but those are not the norm. 1.4-5 is the norm for new construction with those builders, spec or custom.
The lots are around 500-700K (some variation higher) and then construction costs vary, but can land from 600-900K.
Correct, that was the total price. We got a good deal, we know that, but you can do it if you catch them at the right time. I think 1.4-1.5 is market for one of the builders mentioned but if you are patient and somewhat flexible on lot, you can get a deal. School zone will play a part in the lot pricing, you will pay more to be in VES. But I would be happy with my kids going to any of them in town, it wouldn't influence my decision much if I got a deal and that had to be the trade off. Not much in the way of cul-de-sacs anymore either, if you can scoop one of those up, you will pay a premium for it which will drive the price up.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 10:22
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stahl, Brehony, Cloud IX, Sommerville are all high-end builders, and won't build for $500-600K. At that price you are talking vinyl siding, etc. and that is not their sweet spot. Recent;y someone asked Stahl the exact same question and they said "yes, we can do it, but we are not the best for THAT." If you have developed a relationship with a supplier of higher-end product, and have special pricing for that product, it is hard to find the best deal for a cheaper, lower-end product. Best in that price range to check NDI and ANV (a family I know recently decided to go with NDI after doing this exact same research). Used to be, Evergreene would fit in there as well but they seem to have moved up the price range.
I know two friends who have built homes with Evergreene and Classic in Vienna. Neither builder used steel beams and posts in the basement. I would NEVER purchase from a builder who employs such aggressive cost cutting measures, regardless of price. I guess most homeowners don't even know so per code, if they can get away with saving a few $$ by eliminating a core structural component, then why not?
You don't need steel posts and beams in residential basements - per building code, so these builders are not violating anything, but perhaps cutting a corner as you indicate. I agree, however, and would not purchase or build one without
Anonymous
08/02/2016 10:04
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and consult some of the local builders. Clearview, JP Brehony, Somerville, Cloud IX, etc. All great and all live in Vienna, so when something goes wrong, you know they will have you covered.
Have you talked to them? Are they in the range of 500-600K as the OP asked? We contacted some of the ones mentioned above a few years ago and they seemed to be more interested in doing spec houses than build-on-your-lot type.
I know for a fact that Somerville, Brehony, Clear View and Stahl will do on your lot you have. Not sure about Could IX.
Cloud IX def will. And they have some of the more affordable prices. Brehony, , Somerville, Stahl all build super homes. High end, , good craftsmanship, beautiful. Cloud 9 builds wonderful homes too but they have smaller ranges and sizes that they're willing to work with and pre-made plans which really helps mitigate costs
Op, Brehony, stahl, and Somerville, etc build high end AND overpriced homes. You pay for it....I doubt they could do anything in the 500-600k range for you. Look at NDI, classic, and Anv. Just being realistic.
We paid under 1.3 for our home from one of those builders. I think anything under 1.3 in Vienna is a very good price point.
Did the $1.3 include the lot or just the construction/development costs?
My guess is that this is the total cost of one those homes--lot and development. There are a couple going up for 1.7-1.9 now, but those are not the norm. 1.4-5 is the norm for new construction with those builders, spec or custom.
The lots are around 500-700K (some variation higher) and then construction costs vary, but can land from 600-900K.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 10:01
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and consult some of the local builders. Clearview, JP Brehony, Somerville, Cloud IX, etc. All great and all live in Vienna, so when something goes wrong, you know they will have you covered.
Have you talked to them? Are they in the range of 500-600K as the OP asked? We contacted some of the ones mentioned above a few years ago and they seemed to be more interested in doing spec houses than build-on-your-lot type.
I know for a fact that Somerville, Brehony, Clear View and Stahl will do on your lot you have. Not sure about Could IX.
Cloud IX def will. And they have some of the more affordable prices. Brehony, , Somerville, Stahl all build super homes. High end, , good craftsmanship, beautiful. Cloud 9 builds wonderful homes too but they have smaller ranges and sizes that they're willing to work with and pre-made plans which really helps mitigate costs
Op, Brehony, stahl, and Somerville, etc build high end AND overpriced homes. You pay for it....I doubt they could do anything in the 500-600k range for you. Look at NDI, classic, and Anv. Just being realistic.
We paid under 1.3 for our home from one of those builders. I think anything under 1.3 in Vienna is a very good price point.
Did the $1.3 include the lot or just the construction/development costs?
Anonymous
08/02/2016 10:00
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Stahl, Brehony, Cloud IX, Sommerville are all high-end builders, and won't build for $500-600K. At that price you are talking vinyl siding, etc. and that is not their sweet spot. Recent;y someone asked Stahl the exact same question and they said "yes, we can do it, but we are not the best for THAT." If you have developed a relationship with a supplier of higher-end product, and have special pricing for that product, it is hard to find the best deal for a cheaper, lower-end product. Best in that price range to check NDI and ANV (a family I know recently decided to go with NDI after doing this exact same research). Used to be, Evergreene would fit in there as well but they seem to have moved up the price range.
I know two friends who have built homes with Evergreene and Classic in Vienna. Neither builder used steel beams and posts in the basement. I would NEVER purchase from a builder who employs such aggressive cost cutting measures, regardless of price. I guess most homeowners don't even know so per code, if they can get away with saving a few $$ by eliminating a core structural component, then why not?
Anonymous
08/02/2016 08:43
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and consult some of the local builders. Clearview, JP Brehony, Somerville, Cloud IX, etc. All great and all live in Vienna, so when something goes wrong, you know they will have you covered.
Have you talked to them? Are they in the range of 500-600K as the OP asked? We contacted some of the ones mentioned above a few years ago and they seemed to be more interested in doing spec houses than build-on-your-lot type.
I know for a fact that Somerville, Brehony, Clear View and Stahl will do on your lot you have. Not sure about Could IX.
Cloud IX def will. And they have some of the more affordable prices. Brehony, , Somerville, Stahl all build super homes. High end, , good craftsmanship, beautiful. Cloud 9 builds wonderful homes too but they have smaller ranges and sizes that they're willing to work with and pre-made plans which really helps mitigate costs
Op, Brehony, stahl, and Somerville, etc build high end AND overpriced homes. You pay for it....I doubt they could do anything in the 500-600k range for you. Look at NDI, classic, and Anv. Just being realistic.
We paid under 1.3 for our home from one of those builders. I think anything under 1.3 in Vienna is a very good price point.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 08:12
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
It's starting to move away from that it seems. Still some of it but lots of different looking houses going up in Vienna as of the past year or so.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 07:43
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Sekas turned Vienna into Sekas-Ville with all these big boxes. The interiors already look dated.
Anonymous
08/02/2016 07:32
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
I am still pretty sure Cloud IX can build.in that range. We are doing a fully custom home with another builder for 700k and that includes architect costs. Cloud IX was way more affordable ( and who we should have gone with, TBH).
Anonymous
08/01/2016 23:01
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Stahl, Brehony, Cloud IX, Sommerville are all high-end builders, and won't build for $500-600K. At that price you are talking vinyl siding, etc. and that is not their sweet spot. Recent;y someone asked Stahl the exact same question and they said "yes, we can do it, but we are not the best for THAT." If you have developed a relationship with a supplier of higher-end product, and have special pricing for that product, it is hard to find the best deal for a cheaper, lower-end product. Best in that price range to check NDI and ANV (a family I know recently decided to go with NDI after doing this exact same research). Used to be, Evergreene would fit in there as well but they seem to have moved up the price range.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 20:59
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
We own a Sekas home and are happy with the quality and price. When we were evaluating builders, they seemed like a nice compromise between NDI, Classic, etc and some of the higher end builders. They were responsive to the little issues after we moved in, and we love our house several years later. There are lots of other new builds in our neighborhood, and I like that ours fits in without looking like a carbon copy of some of the other styles.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 18:53
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and consult some of the local builders. Clearview, JP Brehony, Somerville, Cloud IX, etc. All great and all live in Vienna, so when something goes wrong, you know they will have you covered.
Have you talked to them? Are they in the range of 500-600K as the OP asked? We contacted some of the ones mentioned above a few years ago and they seemed to be more interested in doing spec houses than build-on-your-lot type.
I know for a fact that Somerville, Brehony, Clear View and Stahl will do on your lot you have. Not sure about Could IX.
Cloud IX def will. And they have some of the more affordable prices. Brehony, , Somerville, Stahl all build super homes. High end, , good craftsmanship, beautiful. Cloud 9 builds wonderful homes too but they have smaller ranges and sizes that they're willing to work with and pre-made plans which really helps mitigate costs
Op, Brehony, stahl, and Somerville, etc build high end AND overpriced homes. You pay for it....I doubt they could do anything in the 500-600k range for you. Look at NDI, classic, and Anv. Just being realistic.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 17:49
Subject: Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like houses built by Focal Point. Their houses all look like a dungeon with low ceilings and small windows. It's also cheaply built.
BTW, one way to tell whether the builders are cutting the corners or not is to look at if their houses have gable roofs.
Focal Point is building all over McLean, and you can spot one a mile away--they all look the same. And often seem to be blue for some unknown reason...or maybe I just keep noticing the ugly blue ones.
Blue is in right now for homes...
As were Harvest Gold and Avocado Green.
Focal Point builds really ugly boxes, notably all over McLean. Wish they'd go elsewhere.
Anonymous
08/01/2016 17:45
Subject: Re:Northern Virginia builders in 500-600k construction range
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and consult some of the local builders. Clearview, JP Brehony, Somerville, Cloud IX, etc. All great and all live in Vienna, so when something goes wrong, you know they will have you covered.
Have you talked to them? Are they in the range of 500-600K as the OP asked? We contacted some of the ones mentioned above a few years ago and they seemed to be more interested in doing spec houses than build-on-your-lot type.
I know for a fact that Somerville, Brehony, Clear View and Stahl will do on your lot you have. Not sure about Could IX.
Cloud IX def will. And they have some of the more affordable prices. Brehony, , Somerville, Stahl all build super homes. High end, , good craftsmanship, beautiful. Cloud 9 builds wonderful homes too but they have smaller ranges and sizes that they're willing to work with and pre-made plans which really helps mitigate costs