Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 11:45     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

No one in their right mind calls him a martyr. This is just a Breitbart talking point to divide people and draw attention from real discourse.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 10:43     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:

She saying there lives is no less or more important than the lives of the unarmed men the led up to this situation. Just because she has odd opinion doesn't mean she sick.



????They were armed.



Yes, a lot of commentators are saying they were unarmed, which is false. Accuracy is important.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 10:31     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A martyr loses their life unable to defend themselves.

This man publicly murdered and maimed many. He taunted with bomb threats and sang.

I am stunned to see some say that what he did was right....shocked. Disgusted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-alabama-dallas-shooter-martyr-article-1.2707783

If you read public Facebook comments on this topic, there are many who are upholding this vomit-inducing opinion.


You need a dictionary.
Martyr is a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of a principle, to kill (someone/or self) for refusing to give up a belief or cause. That principle/belief/cause can be good or evil, just or unjust.


I like this attempt the most. Ha ha.

The dictionary definition. Thanks.

You make sense until you remember we are not in a classroom.

If I make a video talking about mlk was a martyr, I'm giving respect. If I make a video about how David Koresh was a martyr, I'm giving respect. A personal video + use of word martyr = showing affinity for that individual and their movement.

A discussion of mlk being a martyr for his cause in an academic/journalistic/etc setting is neutral, as you suggest in your dictionary definition. A discussion of Koresh being a martyr for his cause in said setting, again, is neutral, as you suggest.

Which one was this?


I second this. "Martyr" depends on your perspective. I'm sure Islamic terrorists consider the 9/11 sub-humans who killed 3000 of our citizens to be martyrs, but we sure don't.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 09:33     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A martyr loses their life unable to defend themselves.

This man publicly murdered and maimed many. He taunted with bomb threats and sang.

I am stunned to see some say that what he did was right....shocked. Disgusted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-alabama-dallas-shooter-martyr-article-1.2707783

If you read public Facebook comments on this topic, there are many who are upholding this vomit-inducing opinion.


You need a dictionary.
Martyr is a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of a principle, to kill (someone/or self) for refusing to give up a belief or cause. That principle/belief/cause can be good or evil, just or unjust.


I like this attempt the most. Ha ha.
The dictionary definition. Thanks.

You make sense until you remember we are not in a classroom.

If I make a video talking about mlk was a martyr, I'm giving respect. If I make a video about how David Koresh was a martyr, I'm giving respect. A personal video + use of word martyr = showing affinity for that individual and their movement.

A discussion of mlk being a martyr for his cause in an academic/journalistic/etc setting is neutral, as you suggest in your dictionary definition. A discussion of Koresh being a martyr for his cause in said setting, again, is neutral, as you suggest.

Which one was this?
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 09:27     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.


She saying there lives is no less or more important than the lives of the unarmed men the led up to this situation. Just because she has odd opinion doesn't mean she sick.



????They were armed.

Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 09:26     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Op back.

Ok woah. Seems like there are some who just love Micah Johnson. Right? There are plenty of people on here beating around the bush and defending this lady.

Just come out in the open now. Start your own thread about how you love him and get the pretense over with. Go ahead, try to defend him as someone who was "just angry."
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 09:11     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

one person doesnt equal "some"
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 09:09     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

He's a murderer, not a martyr. Those policemen were picked off and murdered as they tried to keep the protesters safe.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2016 07:39     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have been on the other side of police shootings, you may not be as empathetic to the Dallas shootings. Even since Dallas, there have been 5 unarmed/ questionable shootings. Akai Gurley was an innocent killed by an over aggressive rookie cop. Why is the life of black innocent or guilty suspects less valuable than a police officers? I get her anger.

To her credit, she posted the video to show how conflicted she was. She's admittedly not proud of or happy about her feelings. She also doesn't condone violence. She is working through her issue which she has self identified. She deserves some credit as she showed courage being openly honest about her feelings. This is the first step in personal transformation. Imagine how powerful it would be if people did this.

The crux of the issue we have with blacks regarding LE, and really all other issues such as education, income inequality, etc., is that many people ultimately believe, whether they admit it internally or not, that black people, or most black people, have a culture problem. Others believe they have lower IQs and are just inherently lower functioning people. And these "facts" are the reason why they statistically are not doing as well as others. They see these views as not being P.C. instead for what they actually are: misinformed at best, overtly racist at worst. It's okay to feel this way, but if you understand what the feelings are, only then can you begin to address them.


Sure, she can hate the police. Lots of people do. She can think Johnson is a martyr. She can post her thoughts online.

I can think she's an idiot. There are bad cops, and dumb ones who make mistakes. Mass shooters, whatever their cause or motivation, are terrible disgusting people. Always.


We need more people in this world like her. She's not an idiot, she's a person who is angry. At least she realizes it and knows her thoughts are not helpful. All you are doing is hurling judgement. She didn't advocate for cops dying.


No, we don’t need more like her.
She doesn’t view these 5 police officers as human beings. She doesn’t view them as husbands, fathers, brothers, sons. She doesn’t view them as little league coaches, volunteers, Christians. She views them as white police officers. Period. She just doesn’t see them as human. In fact, I would say she views them as less than herself.
I see nothing redeeming about what she has posted. If she is conflicted - deal with it privately. Why the need to post to social media? Other than to refer to the killer as a martyr....
I think she is sick. And, totally undeserving of any kind of crowned winner of a beauty pageant. There is nothing beautiful about her.


She saying there lives is no less or more important than the lives of the unarmed men the led up to this situation. Just because she has odd opinion doesn't mean she sick.


No, that's not all she said. She referred to him as a martyr.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2016 23:07     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is a mindless idiot who lacks basic logic and common sense.


Are you talking about yourself. PP, do you always refer to yourself in the third person?


No, the PP was talking about the attention whore who posted the screed you also see to believe. You seem to suffer the same lack of common sense and idiocy. Fortunately, the police are not run by your sort.


Ah, you are the other idiot looking in the mirror as you spew your venom against those who disagree.


Zing. Not.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2016 20:40     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:What he did was wrong.... just like those officers who shot those guys without cause.


Agree. Sorry. Violence is never the answer.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2016 19:47     Subject: Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

What he did was wrong.... just like those officers who shot those guys without cause.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2016 19:38     Subject: Re:Makes me sick. Some calling Micah Xavier Johnson a martyr.

Anonymous wrote:She admitted that she had conflicting feelings.

After the events of last week, if you don't have conflicting feelings, you might not be fully human.


I guess I'm not human. I have zero conflicting feelings about killing random policeman or other innocents. It's wrong.