Anonymous wrote:I did very well in college, and it was much easier for me than it appeared to be for probably 1/2 the people on my dorm floor freshman year.
I wouldn't have gotten into an Ivy League, but honestly, after 12 years at my school I needed a change and pretty much only applied to big state schools. I felt like most people at my school were pretty much the same and I just needed something different. I'm very glad I went to a big state school.
Academically, I feel like the education was very good. However, particularly by the time you get to high school, it seems like the school had essentially already determined who would go to a Ivy League school, and those were the kids worth helping. A few teachers were the exception, but I remember after getting As in 2 English classes with the same teacher, he said he couldn't write me a letter of recommendation because he already had too many to write. I then found out he was writing one for my friend (who got an A- in the one class she took with him) who ended up attending Harvard. I learned he only wrote letters of rec for kids going to Ivys/Stanford/a private "elite" school because they were more worthwhile.
I don't have kids yet, but my husband and I have already decided that we will likely send our kids to public school. My experience at private school factored into this decision, but was not the main factor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a lifer in the independent school world and now work in it. I now find the true value in independent elementary schools. The foundation, attention, and communication between school and parents really sets the stage for the remainder of one's life.
+1 very true.
Anonymous wrote:Not PP, but we live in a great area in Close- enough VA and schools have trailers, 28-30 kids, no continuation of knowledge of each student as they are moved to other grades, D- staffed. The only schools I know of ( from teacher friends) with 18-20 kids are the Title I schools but it sounds like you got lucky. Can you tell us your area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP I assume you are a non-minority. If I am correct, do you have an opinion or sense for whether your experiences were not the same as students of color at your Big 3? I am a minority parent with a DC at a Big 3 now (on financial
aid) and I keep asking myself if what you have described would not be the same experience my DC would have because our family experience is drastically different in so many other ways to begin with. I too am a government lawyer. However, I went to public school and found myself very unprepared for my top 20 college. I eventually got the hang of it and went on to do well enough to go to a top 20 law school but the experience of being so under prepared for college is the reason I am not considering public school for my DC (especially since I do not live in an area with excellent public schools or charter school options).
Hi, OP here! You're right, I am white (I'm also Jewish, but I don't count that as a minority at my DC private school). However, the only 3 friends from high school with whom I'm still friends (the three who were invited to my wedding) are black. Out of those three, one is EXCEPTIONALLY gifted. Genuinely one of the smartest people I have ever met. She went to an Ivy League school. Another is extremely intelligent and also went Ivy, but isn't quite as naturally gifted. The third went to a private college that isn't super elite, but is probably the one with the most professional success. All 3 were on various levels of financial aid.
If you ask my "exceptionally gifted" friend, she would say her high school experience was amazing. She has literally no complaints and is very active in the alumni association. She is currently doing okay pretty well professionally, but is a bit frustrated with her work. If you ask my other friend who went to an Ivy, she would describe an experience most like mine. She felt a bit out of place, and like many teachers didn't really care about her future. She is pretty frustrated professionally, bough that is likely because she isn't sure about what she wants to do. If you ask the non-Ivy friend, she's somewhere in the middle. I think she seriously values the education, but felt a bit out of place being much less wealthy than everyone else. She went to an expensive (but not super elite) private college where I think these feelings continued. However, she has an amazing job helping special needs kids. She is the most professionally focused and has won several awards in her profession.
The teachers didn't care about your future and refused to write a letter of recommendation? Please. Some of my public school teacher colleagues who barely know their students' names. That's great to make your school choices before you even have children, but when you walk down to the local elementary school and see 30 kids in a Kindergarten class in a trailer, you may change your tune.
What crappy area do you live in? I have a kid in public and private. No trailers, no 30 kids. 19 has been the max in a newly built school. Maybe you need to move.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP I assume you are a non-minority. If I am correct, do you have an opinion or sense for whether your experiences were not the same as students of color at your Big 3? I am a minority parent with a DC at a Big 3 now (on financial
aid) and I keep asking myself if what you have described would not be the same experience my DC would have because our family experience is drastically different in so many other ways to begin with. I too am a government lawyer. However, I went to public school and found myself very unprepared for my top 20 college. I eventually got the hang of it and went on to do well enough to go to a top 20 law school but the experience of being so under prepared for college is the reason I am not considering public school for my DC (especially since I do not live in an area with excellent public schools or charter school options).
Hi, OP here! You're right, I am white (I'm also Jewish, but I don't count that as a minority at my DC private school). However, the only 3 friends from high school with whom I'm still friends (the three who were invited to my wedding) are black. Out of those three, one is EXCEPTIONALLY gifted. Genuinely one of the smartest people I have ever met. She went to an Ivy League school. Another is extremely intelligent and also went Ivy, but isn't quite as naturally gifted. The third went to a private college that isn't super elite, but is probably the one with the most professional success. All 3 were on various levels of financial aid.
If you ask my "exceptionally gifted" friend, she would say her high school experience was amazing. She has literally no complaints and is very active in the alumni association. She is currently doing okay pretty well professionally, but is a bit frustrated with her work. If you ask my other friend who went to an Ivy, she would describe an experience most like mine. She felt a bit out of place, and like many teachers didn't really care about her future. She is pretty frustrated professionally, bough that is likely because she isn't sure about what she wants to do. If you ask the non-Ivy friend, she's somewhere in the middle. I think she seriously values the education, but felt a bit out of place being much less wealthy than everyone else. She went to an expensive (but not super elite) private college where I think these feelings continued. However, she has an amazing job helping special needs kids. She is the most professionally focused and has won several awards in her profession.
The teachers didn't care about your future and refused to write a letter of recommendation? Please. Some of my public school teacher colleagues who barely know their students' names. That's great to make your school choices before you even have children, but when you walk down to the local elementary school and see 30 kids in a Kindergarten class in a trailer, you may change your tune.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a lifer in the independent school world and now work in it. I now find the true value in independent elementary schools. The foundation, attention, and communication between school and parents really sets the stage for the remainder of one's life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP I assume you are a non-minority. If I am correct, do you have an opinion or sense for whether your experiences were not the same as students of color at your Big 3? I am a minority parent with a DC at a Big 3 now (on financial
aid) and I keep asking myself if what you have described would not be the same experience my DC would have because our family experience is drastically different in so many other ways to begin with. I too am a government lawyer. However, I went to public school and found myself very unprepared for my top 20 college. I eventually got the hang of it and went on to do well enough to go to a top 20 law school but the experience of being so under prepared for college is the reason I am not considering public school for my DC (especially since I do not live in an area with excellent public schools or charter school options).
Hi, OP here! You're right, I am white (I'm also Jewish, but I don't count that as a minority at my DC private school). However, the only 3 friends from high school with whom I'm still friends (the three who were invited to my wedding) are black. Out of those three, one is EXCEPTIONALLY gifted. Genuinely one of the smartest people I have ever met. She went to an Ivy League school. Another is extremely intelligent and also went Ivy, but isn't quite as naturally gifted. The third went to a private college that isn't super elite, but is probably the one with the most professional success. All 3 were on various levels of financial aid.
If you ask my "exceptionally gifted" friend, she would say her high school experience was amazing. She has literally no complaints and is very active in the alumni association. She is currently doing okay pretty well professionally, but is a bit frustrated with her work. If you ask my other friend who went to an Ivy, she would describe an experience most like mine. She felt a bit out of place, and like many teachers didn't really care about her future. She is pretty frustrated professionally, bough that is likely because she isn't sure about what she wants to do. If you ask the non-Ivy friend, she's somewhere in the middle. I think she seriously values the education, but felt a bit out of place being much less wealthy than everyone else. She went to an expensive (but not super elite) private college where I think these feelings continued. However, she has an amazing job helping special needs kids. She is the most professionally focused and has won several awards in her profession.
The teachers didn't care about your future and refused to write a letter of recommendation? Please. Some of my public school teacher colleagues who barely know their students' names. That's great to make your school choices before you even have children, but when you walk down to the local elementary school and see 30 kids in a Kindergarten class in a trailer, you may change your tune.