Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:22
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not SF proper, but the entitlement crown goes to Silicon Valley burbs like Atherton, Hillsborough, etc.
Yes. These are much better examples of out of touch places. Not SF.
I'm from Marin County. Truly out of touch.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:22
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord! 5K for a studio? We have nothing on SF.
Please. That's still extremely expensive for SF. You can find the same in NY but the vast majority of people aren't living in 5k studios.
And? You dont have that in DC. Not to the same level. And dont try to lie and say we do.. everyone knows we just dont.
Never said that. I find dc inexpensive. But I don't think the question was about the cost of real estate or rental rates.
But that's indicative of how out of touch it is. The fact that only the privileged can afford to live there.
Exactly. I'm a millennial. I looked into moving into San Fran.[/b] If you want to live alone, you are absolutely looking at spending $3000 monthly, studio or otherwise.[b] That's not a joke, it's not an exaggeration.
If you are willing to share with roommates, you may be able to find something as low as the $1600 dollar range. But that's a maybe.
That effectively keeps out anyone who does not have a lot of money and is not, by nature of income, spoiled to a certain extent.
That kind of rent is not something we have to deal with in DC.
Not if you live in Bayview-Hunters Point.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:21
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Not SF proper, but the entitlement crown goes to Silicon Valley burbs like Atherton, Hillsborough, etc.
True. My mom grew up in San Mateo and it is awful there now.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:20
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
I'll never understand this weird dc hate, you all must never really explore the city. It sucks that we're the trash can for the country's politicians but that's the people you send us and their entourage.
What's wrong with picking out granite??? That's not even that luxuriant lol
Are you the same person who has been camping out on this thread and arguing with literally everyone? Dude, get a life.
You think there's only one poster here with a different point of view? Why do you call that "arguing"?
I don't get the DC hate either. Yes, Congress people are a bunch of douchebags, but that's b/c all the people who live in the 50 states send them here. If you actually LIVE in DC, you realized it's SO MUCH MORE than just Congress and the Hill. And Washingtonians hate Congress even more than other Americans.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:15
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Not SF proper, but the entitlement crown goes to Silicon Valley burbs like Atherton, Hillsborough, etc.
Yes. These are much better examples of out of touch places. Not SF.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:14
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
I'll never understand this weird dc hate, you all must never really explore the city. It sucks that we're the trash can for the country's politicians but that's the people you send us and their entourage.
What's wrong with picking out granite??? That's not even that luxuriant lol
Are you the same person who has been camping out on this thread and arguing with literally everyone? Dude, get a life.
No I'm a new poster actually. And a woman. And this is the first post on dcum I've looked at in hours!
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:12
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Not SF proper, but the entitlement crown goes to Silicon Valley burbs like Atherton, Hillsborough, etc.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:08
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
I'll never understand this weird dc hate, you all must never really explore the city. It sucks that we're the trash can for the country's politicians but that's the people you send us and their entourage.
What's wrong with picking out granite??? That's not even that luxuriant lol
Are you the same person who has been camping out on this thread and arguing with literally everyone? Dude, get a life.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:07
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
I'll never understand this weird dc hate, you all must never really explore the city. It sucks that we're the trash can for the country's politicians but that's the people you send us and their entourage.
What's wrong with picking out granite??? That's not even that luxuriant lol
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:06
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
Please. If you truly admire the culture of LA you're completely misguided.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 19:00
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
+1. I can tolerate the self absorption of say, Los Angeles, because it truly is a creative capital that, for every entitled Beverly Hills real estate broker, has struggling artists and people that truly do move the world forward. But DC is just... a bunch of middling wonks making slightly above average off the teat of the government, who still insist on shopping at whole foods and getting the granite they want.
It's really the worst.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 18:59
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord! 5K for a studio? We have nothing on SF.
Please. That's still extremely expensive for SF. You can find the same in NY but the vast majority of people aren't living in 5k studios.
And? You dont have that in DC. Not to the same level. And dont try to lie and say we do.. everyone knows we just dont.
Never said that. I find dc inexpensive. But I don't think the question was about the cost of real estate or rental rates.
But that's indicative of how out of touch it is. The fact that only the privileged can afford to live there.
I don't think that's "out of touch." Most people in sf are aware it's expensive and that rent and home prices are extremely high. There are also plenty of homeless people there. I would say someplace like aspen or la jolla is truly out of touch.
You just disproved your point.
No. If you're walking past homeless people multiple times a day you aren't living somewhere that's out of touch. There are many homeless people and poverty in this country and living in sf will remind you of this daily.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 18:57
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class.
It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything.
Nailed it. For better or worse, people in SF and NY are on the cutting edge of change. People in DC are just obnoxious rent-seekers.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 18:57
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord! 5K for a studio? We have nothing on SF.
Please. That's still extremely expensive for SF. You can find the same in NY but the vast majority of people aren't living in 5k studios.
And? You dont have that in DC. Not to the same level. And dont try to lie and say we do.. everyone knows we just dont.
Never said that. I find dc inexpensive. But I don't think the question was about the cost of real estate or rental rates.
But that's indicative of how out of touch it is. The fact that only the privileged can afford to live there.
Exactly. I'm a millennial. I looked into moving into San Fran. If you want to live alone, you are absolutely looking at spending $3000 monthly, studio or otherwise. That's not a joke, it's not an exaggeration.
If you are willing to share with roommates, you may be able to find something as low as the $1600 dollar range. But that's a maybe.
That effectively keeps out anyone who does not have a lot of money and is not, by nature of income, spoiled to a certain extent.
That kind of rent is not something we have to deal with in DC.
So what's your point? Have you ever lived anywhere expensive? I lived in Manhattan and the rent you quoted seems reasonable. Sf is a very small city with some high paying jobs. There are plenty of other cities to live in the us.
I should think the point is fairly obvious. This is not "reasonable" rent in SF- this is the base level, access point, bottom of the barrel. You CAN find cheaper stuff in NY, and certainly in DC, but you really cannot in San Fran. This is what makes it unusual.
Yes it's unusual but does that mean it's out of touch?? Does expensive necessarily mean out of touch??
Certainly. Especially when the only people you interact with are others who can afford to pay that kind of rent. Not to be rude, but duh!
I completely disagree. The vast majority of residents in sf aren't paying that kind of rent. Many people have lived there for years and either own or have a rent controlled apartment. The people paying those rents are newcomers. Also just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's an apartment that makes you out of touch with others. When I think out of touch I think of people with nannies, household staff, intellectuals who think everyone lives a similar lifestyle or could.
Anonymous
06/19/2016 18:56
Subject: Most spoiled and entitled city in the U.S.?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord! 5K for a studio? We have nothing on SF.
Please. That's still extremely expensive for SF. You can find the same in NY but the vast majority of people aren't living in 5k studios.
And? You dont have that in DC. Not to the same level. And dont try to lie and say we do.. everyone knows we just dont.
Never said that. I find dc inexpensive. But I don't think the question was about the cost of real estate or rental rates.
But that's indicative of how out of touch it is. The fact that only the privileged can afford to live there.
I don't think that's "out of touch." Most people in sf are aware it's expensive and that rent and home prices are extremely high. There are also plenty of homeless people there. I would say someplace like aspen or la jolla is truly out of touch.
I was going to nominate La Jolla but you beat me to it!