Anonymous
Post 06/11/2016 23:04     Subject: Re:Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:You people are crazy, not just for spending money on a dog because you want a certain breed, but thinking its ok to ship dogs from one place to another....bonkers.


FYI: shelters are full of dogs shipped from one place to another. I live in a state that regularly receives shipments of dogs from southern states. Pretty interesting the airlift programs for shelter dogs. Planes full of dogs being transported to and fro.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2016 22:18     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:You can also get a purebred Golden that washed out of Service Dog training -- for nothing. This is a trained dog a year old fully trained in numerous commands that simply did not make their standard of excellence for service and companion animals. Contact Canine Companions for Independence about their adoption program.


Tried. 3 year waitlist. Good luck with that.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2016 06:30     Subject: Re:Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are crazy, not just for spending money on a dog because you want a certain breed, but thinking its ok to ship dogs from one place to another....bonkers.


+1000. The cash price, in any event, does not include the remains of the shelter dog that dies when someone pays for the factory farming of a dog for sale.


Please stop. It is not my fault nor my problem that spawn of backyard breeders and pit mixes and puppy mill dogs fill shelters. An elderly woman checked consistently in person to get a sweet small dog relinquished by a similar type individual-2 years. Weekly visits to the shelter, knew staff, and they held the dog for her to see as soon ass it came in.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 21:03     Subject: Re:Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:You people are crazy, not just for spending money on a dog because you want a certain breed, but thinking its ok to ship dogs from one place to another....bonkers.


+1000. The cash price, in any event, does not include the remains of the shelter dog that dies when someone pays for the factory farming of a dog for sale.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 15:45     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
PUPPY MILLS PEOPLE!
There are breed specific rescues. What are you thinking?
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 15:08     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH has had his eye on a particular dog breed for a few years. It's a breed that's not very common in the US.

Is $2500 within the range of normal for a purebred puppy from a very reputable breeder?


$2500 seems high to me unless it's one of those c section type breeds which might even be more expensive. I've seen great Lab breeders at about 1800. Type's of breeders who show all the way up to Westminster, do obedience and field trials plus bring pups and dogs into their homes.

Found doodles at 2900. Yikes. A 2800 doodle breeder wrote on their website

"As a small, home based breeder, we are unable to take visitors in our home. We do not have a kennel facility for visiting. Our dogs reside in our home with our family... we are unfortunately unable to handle the interruptions to our home life and the care of our dogs and puppies..."

I've gotten some dogs from breeders and all had visitation. At 6 weeks one normally meets the litter and sees potential pups. 8 weeks is selection time. One breeder was a small home breeder and had the whelping box in her DR and when older the pups climbed in and out. Another used a 2 sides windows home office [maybe 15x15] as a puppy room - had her desk in there plus converted laundry to grooming room etc. Another had a custom built gorgeous facility and also brought them into the gorgeous antique laden home. Yes the puppies lounge inside and play while people watch tv/eat/etc.


that raises MAJOR red flags about this "breeder" actually being a puppy mill


You mean the part in my post that I bolded being a puppy mill? The "I've gotten part ..." was about breeders far from being puppy mills-they were fanatics about their breed.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2016 05:01     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
You can also get a purebred Golden that washed out of Service Dog training -- for nothing. This is a trained dog a year old fully trained in numerous commands that simply did not make their standard of excellence for service and companion animals. Contact Canine Companions for Independence about their adoption program.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 14:55     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:I've had breeder dogs, shelter dogs, and dogs that I've rescued in other ways. I love them all and each has their own personality.

However, whenever people get all riled up about others NOT rescuing, I do wonder. Do you think ALL breeders are bad? I know that you want everyone to rescue their dog, but I want to know your thoughts on reputable, non-backyard breeders. I researched for close to 2 years before settling on the breeder I chose for one of my dogs. That breeder LOVES dogs and doesn't do it for the money. There are plenty of other people who do, too. Why is that so bad? I will be looking for another dog to add to our lives soon as one of ours just passed away, and I haven't yet decided whether I'll rescue or go the breeder route. If I go breeder, it will not be a backyard breeder. I don't know why that's so wrong.


this "are all breeders bad" question doesn't have one answer in the rescue world. there are some who think yes, it is bad for any dogs to be purposely bred while other dogs are dying in shelters. some think that breeding ltself is inherently problematic and abusive. some think there's room in the pet world for some bred dogs.

it's not a monolithic thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 14:52     Subject: Re:Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Completely absurd. You are all bad people.


I'm not sure they're bad ppl, but very misguided and misinformed.

Goldens, Labs, Poodles, Doodles; you can find any dog you want at a shelter. Every minute, thousands of lovely dogs are killed because they don't have a home. Lovely dogs with lovely personalities just waiting for someone to notice them. We've had 2 rescued young Yorkies, both were lovely and friendly. I'd rather search for months for a rescue than go to a breeder. Our rescue Yorkie came from a "breeder"; a backyard breeder who was in over her head, and thankfully, reported to authorities. I'm sure she also shipped her dogs, but she can't anymore because she served time


2000 dogs killed per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 24 hours per day x 365 days per year equals 1051200000 dogs killed per year? You are off by three orders of magnitude.


there's about 1.2 million shelter dogs killed every year for lack of space

http://www.aspca.org/animal-homelessness/shelter-intake-and-surrender/pet-statistics

but this needn't be an issue of guilting a person into adopting. it's not up to you to save all these animals. just be careful - please be sure to do your research and not buy a dog from a puppy mill. and don't buy this silly info that shelter dogs are emotionally damaged or anything - as someone else said, many of these dogs came from breeders, many were pets; by and large, you are talking about awesome dogs.

and if you get one who's been in foster, you will actually have a great idea of what their personalities are like - you don't have to guess or hope.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 14:49     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My dad's King Charles cavalier was $2000. My brother's bull mastiff was $1000. I was really against purebreds and got rescue dogs. My dad and brother's dogs are well behaved, good dogs. Mine are emotionally disturbed, hard to train and don't listen. I've spent thousands on training. Not sure if it's a purebred thing or what, but my rescues have impossibly bad behaviour and next time I'm getting a dog from a breeder!


Yeah, that is hard to explain considering many rescue dogs come from breeders.


+1 - that is absurd.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 14:47     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH has had his eye on a particular dog breed for a few years. It's a breed that's not very common in the US.

Is $2500 within the range of normal for a purebred puppy from a very reputable breeder?


$2500 seems high to me unless it's one of those c section type breeds which might even be more expensive. I've seen great Lab breeders at about 1800. Type's of breeders who show all the way up to Westminster, do obedience and field trials plus bring pups and dogs into their homes.

Found doodles at 2900. Yikes. A 2800 doodle breeder wrote on their website

"As a small, home based breeder, we are unable to take visitors in our home. We do not have a kennel facility for visiting. Our dogs reside in our home with our family... we are unfortunately unable to handle the interruptions to our home life and the care of our dogs and puppies..."

I've gotten some dogs from breeders and all had visitation. At 6 weeks one normally meets the litter and sees potential pups. 8 weeks is selection time. One breeder was a small home breeder and had the whelping box in her DR and when older the pups climbed in and out. Another used a 2 sides windows home office [maybe 15x15] as a puppy room - had her desk in there plus converted laundry to grooming room etc. Another had a custom built gorgeous facility and also brought them into the gorgeous antique laden home. Yes the puppies lounge inside and play while people watch tv/eat/etc.


that raises MAJOR red flags about this "breeder" actually being a puppy mill
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 12:47     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Westminster..
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 12:47     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
If you go to Westminter in New York you can go back stage and speak to breeders about puppies...they all have them to sell!
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 12:46     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Depends on breed and amount of puppies in the litter. 1200-3000 from top tier breeder with dogs in the ring. Remember the breeder may keep one puppy from a litter to show and consequently breed...that puppy may have 8 siblings. Some breeders have several litters at a time.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2016 12:39     Subject: Price for purebred dogs--what's a realistic range?
Wow! We got our goldendoodle (half-breed, but parents were both purebreds) for $1100 in Minnesota. Purebred goldens were $600. We love our dog, who is 8 and perfectly healthy. Maybe shop around, OP!