Anonymous
Post 06/02/2016 05:43     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:
Google "Flynn effect" but yes, the WISC IV scores are higher than what a WISC V in the first year will be.

Interesting. Does anyone have any idea how much lower scores for wisc V are than wisc IV? Am I correct in thinking a a fsiq of say 125 on the wisc V would be comparable to a fsiq score of 130 + on the wisc IV?


The second post in this thread on the Davidson board may provide some insight:

http://giftedissues.davidsongifted.org/BB/ubbthreads.php/topics/214194/Comparing_WISC_IV_WISC_V.html
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 23:30     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?

Google "Flynn effect" but yes, the WISC IV scores are higher than what a WISC V in the first year will be.

Interesting. Does anyone have any idea how much lower scores for wisc V are than wisc IV? Am I correct in thinking a a fsiq of say 125 on the wisc V would be comparable to a fsiq score of 130 + on the wisc IV?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 23:00     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:NNAT - 123
GOGAT - 114
GBRS - 12
WISC - 129 (97%; w/134 in Fluid Reasoning)

NOT IN

Reading through some other posts and seeing lower scores were accepted on appeal makes me think that it might also depend on the competition in the area, and available slots in AAP assigned school/center. We are in Shrevewood/Lemon Road option for AAP where I am thinking most of the slots were already taken before the appeal just because of how crowded this area is.


My DS got in on appeal with similar scores, except wisc was 138. If you are assigned to lemon center, and your logic was true, you would hasve been admitted. If you read Fairfax schools report from 2015, you will see that lemon is a recently opened center to unload haycock. It has full funding and full aap center stuff, but less students than needed for a center operating at full capacity. Actually lemon is among schools which are closely monitored to ensure appropriate number of students. Per the report lemon center is not loaded with aap students to its intended capacity. Therefore if they were truly choosing students to fill slots, students with lower scores would be accepted.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 21:01     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:That could describe my kid. School wrote down that test scores did not reflect child's potential. I'm a little sad. Child is always doing extra work in class assigned only to him. All 4's on every academic subject for 2 years through third quarter. Submitted math and social studies writing. Great writer. Apparently had passed 2nd grade writing criteria at beginning of year. We had higher scores and did not get in. I'm surprised with the extensive commentary on the GBRS and persuasive comment from school. [/quote

Just reapply next year, don't be sad - lots of kids enter after 3rd grade
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 17:22     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:The wisc scores needed for a successful appeal do seem lower than those posted in previous years threads. I am wondering if there is a difference between wisc IV, which I believe was used in years prior to this year. Is this the first year where the wisc V is being administered? I seem to recall a posting on another AAP thread a while back mentioning that a lower score in the wisc V (somewhere in the 120's) would be indicative of "giftedness". I think it's also worth mentioning that AAP is advanced academics, not giftedness as such. So many of these kids can still probably do well in AAP.


Google "Flynn effect" but yes, the WISC IV scores are higher than what a WISC V in the first year will be.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 16:26     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
I got mail yesterday (5/31) and my two boys got it. 2nd grade and 4th grade. Zip code 22033
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 16:02     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
The wisc scores needed for a successful appeal do seem lower than those posted in previous years threads. I am wondering if there is a difference between wisc IV, which I believe was used in years prior to this year. Is this the first year where the wisc V is being administered? I seem to recall a posting on another AAP thread a while back mentioning that a lower score in the wisc V (somewhere in the 120's) would be indicative of "giftedness". I think it's also worth mentioning that AAP is advanced academics, not giftedness as such. So many of these kids can still probably do well in AAP.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 12:13     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:NNAT - 123
GOGAT - 114
GBRS - 12
WISC - 129 (97%; w/134 in Fluid Reasoning)

NOT IN

Reading through some other posts and seeing lower scores were accepted on appeal makes me think that it might also depend on the competition in the area, and available slots in AAP assigned school/center. We are in Shrevewood/Lemon Road option for AAP where I am thinking most of the slots were already taken before the appeal just because of how crowded this area is.


This is close to our scores, DS got in.

Nnat 113
Cogat -118, composite 124
Gbrs -13
Wisc -133

To someone asking about what was included in the appeals packet, the new info included Wisc and a few math work samples. I honestly think the only thing that made a difference was the Wisc. The original packet had all the recommendation letters, certificates and awards.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 12:09     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There aren't a fixed number of slots in fairfax county. - How do you know this? Even if its not a fixed # for FC overall, there must be a limit for each school
And from what I've seen on dcum, shrevewood has small aap classes. - If that is the case, than its even more obvious that they have to regulate the # of kids in the program


It's somewhere in the a fcps.edu website that each child found eligible will be offered services.
The schools do their planning based on how many accept the services.

Do a search here on shrevewood and lemon road. Much drama.
And I have a good friend in one of those schools so I've heard the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 11:10     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
Anonymous wrote:There aren't a fixed number of slots in fairfax county. - How do you know this? Even if its not a fixed # for FC overall, there must be a limit for each school
And from what I've seen on dcum, shrevewood has small aap classes. - If that is the case, than its even more obvious that they have to regulate the # of kids in the program
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 10:59     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
There aren't a fixed number of slots in fairfax county.
And from what I've seen on dcum, shrevewood has small aap classes.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 10:58     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
I would have to say that must play a part.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 10:48     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
NNAT - 123
GOGAT - 114
GBRS - 12
WISC - 129 (97%; w/134 in Fluid Reasoning)

NOT IN

Reading through some other posts and seeing lower scores were accepted on appeal makes me think that it might also depend on the competition in the area, and available slots in AAP assigned school/center. We are in Shrevewood/Lemon Road option for AAP where I am thinking most of the slots were already taken before the appeal just because of how crowded this area is.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 10:41     Subject: Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
We had the very high sub scores as well- one in fluid reasoning. Makes no sense honestly to me comparing the two.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2016 10:38     Subject: Re:Anybody know the date to expect an appeal decision?
I suppose it's possible to have the same overall Wisc score but one child's wisc could have much higher sub scores.
There seems to be many instances of overall scores being pulled down by processing speed.