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Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

For a family to get into transitional housing they must be a DC resident. http://dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/FinalAdoptionHome.aspx?RuleVersionID=3748388

(c) Is a resident of the District of Columbia as defined by section 503 of the District of Columbia Public Assistance Act of 1982, effective April 6, 1982 (D.C. Law 4-101; D.C. Official Code § 4-205.03);

Perhaps true, for sure irrelevant.

From earlier in this very same thread:

"D.C. is the only jurisdiction in the area where people cannot be turned away from shelter during cold weather, and families never are turned away. While D.C. has a residency requirement for shelters, it rarely results in people from Maryland and Virginia being turned away."

It is bizarre, when you are a small city between two huge states to pony up with a no turn aways law. I actually dont want DC to be like the horror stories I've heard of SF. I want a large facility for the drug addicted/unstable, a large transitional facility for families, and then subsidized low income housing with many requirements (work/school/kids in school) and supports if needed (transport voucher, food voucher, counseling) for needy and deserving DC residents, families first.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

For a family to get into transitional housing they must be a DC resident. http://dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/FinalAdoptionHome.aspx?RuleVersionID=3748388

(c) Is a resident of the District of Columbia as defined by section 503 of the District of Columbia Public Assistance Act of 1982, effective April 6, 1982 (D.C. Law 4-101; D.C. Official Code § 4-205.03);

Perhaps true, for sure irrelevant.

From earlier in this very same thread:

"D.C. is the only jurisdiction in the area where people cannot be turned away from shelter during cold weather, and families never are turned away. While D.C. has a residency requirement for shelters, it rarely results in people from Maryland and Virginia being turned away."

It's not irrelevant. The policy is what it is in Arlington or FFX. And exceptions get made in all of the during hypothermia conditions. Nobody gets turned away when the weather is that cold, unless there is no room.

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Anonymous wrote:You should check out San Francisco sometime.

stinks like urine everywhere.

You should check out DC General to get a flavor for DC homeless addicted to drugs, watching soaps in the waiting room, etc. In fact, check out any ER room around here.

ER care is the most expensive kind of healthcare there is. This is why DC needs to be investing in robust integrated care teams to look after them to avoid unnecessary ER visits, rather than just throwing them into overpriced real estate which is still lacking all the support the homeless need.

Most turn to drugs and then cannot do anything but act crazy. you want to pay for that? You want to find someone to nanny them all day? No country in the world does that nor can afford to.

I don't know about that "most" part but I do know that many homeless don't just act crazy because of drugs...
Do you realize that an estimated 26% of homeless adults staying in shelters have serious mental illnesses.
Not all homeless people are drugged out slackers and losers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

For a family to get into transitional housing they must be a DC resident. http://dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/FinalAdoptionHome.aspx?RuleVersionID=3748388

(c) Is a resident of the District of Columbia as defined by section 503 of the District of Columbia Public Assistance Act of 1982, effective April 6, 1982 (D.C. Law 4-101; D.C. Official Code § 4-205.03);

Perhaps true, for sure irrelevant.

From earlier in this very same thread:

"D.C. is the only jurisdiction in the area where people cannot be turned away from shelter during cold weather, and families never are turned away. While D.C. has a residency requirement for shelters, it rarely results in people from Maryland and Virginia being turned away."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

For a family to get into transitional housing they must be a DC resident. http://dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/FinalAdoptionHome.aspx?RuleVersionID=3748388

(c) Is a resident of the District of Columbia as defined by section 503 of the District of Columbia Public Assistance Act of 1982, effective April 6, 1982 (D.C. Law 4-101; D.C. Official Code § 4-205.03);

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

Untrue. DC has a huge backlog. Of its own making.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

True. They are coming out of their own volition because they can get a better deal here, as the only jurisdiction that doesn't require to be a local resident. Were I in their shoes, I'd do the same.

Still, is this something that DC voters have voted? Do we want to become the homeless center for the DMV?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

People are so ignorant about who the homeless are. Of those 8,350 homeless people, only 1500 of them are chronically homeless - which includes people homeless for a year or more, or people homeless on four separate occasions. So assuming that half of them have been "shipped" from the suburbs, you still have 7,600 of your own. Nobody is shipping a homeless mother and two kids to DC.

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Anonymous wrote:You should check out San Francisco sometime.

stinks like urine everywhere.

You should check out DC General to get a flavor for DC homeless addicted to drugs, watching soaps in the waiting room, etc. In fact, check out any ER room around here.

Last time I went to San Francisco (about a year ago) it was un-freaking-believable. Feces in the streets. Open inter-venous drug use. Aggressive begging. Gnarly looking pitbulls.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should check out San Francisco sometime.

stinks like urine everywhere.

You should check out DC General to get a flavor for DC homeless addicted to drugs, watching soaps in the waiting room, etc. In fact, check out any ER room around here.

ER care is the most expensive kind of healthcare there is. This is why DC needs to be investing in robust integrated care teams to look after them to avoid unnecessary ER visits, rather than just throwing them into overpriced real estate which is still lacking all the support the homeless need.

Most turn to drugs and then cannot do anything but act crazy. you want to pay for that? You want to find someone to nanny them all day? No country in the world does that nor can afford to.

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The suburbs send them to DC.

Anonymous wrote:Urban Zombies

When they start branching out to the suburbs, you've got problems.

Yesterday I was hit up by 6 in a 2 block area. 4 seemed to be professional panhandlers. They wanted cigarettes and change.

The panhandlers don't like hearing that I donate to charities for the homeless like Capitol Area Food Bank instead of giving a handout. Tough shit. The fact is, the money I give to Capitol Area Food Bank will go a lot farther and feed a lot more people than if I were to give it directly to the homeless. If you just want it for cigarettes and booze I won't help you.

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Anonymous wrote:You should check out San Francisco sometime.

stinks like urine everywhere.

You should check out DC General to get a flavor for DC homeless addicted to drugs, watching soaps in the waiting room, etc. In fact, check out any ER room around here.

ER care is the most expensive kind of healthcare there is. This is why DC needs to be investing in robust integrated care teams to look after them to avoid unnecessary ER visits, rather than just throwing them into overpriced real estate which is still lacking all the support the homeless need.

Anonymous wrote:And I do agree with her that DC general should be rehabbed -as permanent transitional housing. It is near metro and services can be consolidated. A school bus can pick up kids. This scattering of eight shelters through the city is seeming more and more like wasteful nonsense that helps developers. People should be in an efficient transitional shelter like DC General, and then apply for subsidized affordable housing with conditions if able to make the move to independence.

It was closed down before and should be knocked down.

It can be called the Darwin parking lot. That will work.

Anonymous wrote:You should check out San Francisco sometime.

stinks like urine everywhere.

You should check out DC General to get a flavor for DC homeless addicted to drugs, watching soaps in the waiting room, etc. In fact, check out any ER room around here.