Anonymous wrote:if you have a parent who ends up impoverished but still attending a Catholic Church regularly - but not as some manner of dues paying member - you may find (as I did) that the church they attended and gave their time to will refuse to hold a funeral service for them. And will refuse to allow any priest of the church to hold a funeral service for them in any other place - such as hospital chapel - because it's not Catholic hallowed ground. As Fleetwood Mac said - "been down one time, been down two times -- never going back again."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And, I am not Catholic, so explain to me--if you can go and confess sins at any time, why is not going to Mass such a big deal? Couldn't they not go to Mass and go in and confess the sin of not going and get it cleared somehow?
It's only a big deal if the person missing mass does not get to confession and communion soon after commiting the sin. This, unfortunately, is the case with catholics who drop out during college. If they eventually return to the faith -- meaning confessing their sins and going to mass regularly again - then they're OK.
But if they die in the interim (unlikely in the case of young people), they will go to hell because they have mortal sins on their soul for which they have not been forgiven.
If you skip mass one week & get hit by a bus & die before going to confession, you go to hell.
If you brutally murder 100s of people but go to confession & receive communion afterwards, you go to heaven.
Sounds fair.
What's fair about the Catholic church is that it teaches you what the rules are and then expects you to follow them. All catholics have also been taught what the punishments for not following the rule are. YOu can't receive the sacraments of communion and confirmation without specific instuction.
You realize that most people are 7 or 8 when they make their First Communion & 13 or 14 when they get confirmed, right? In most cases, they receive these sacrements because their parents expect them to, not because they themselves have carefully considered all the tenants of the Catholic faith & made the decision to vow to abide by them.Heck, by the time I made my Confirmation, I knew I disagreed with some of the church's teachings. I made my Confirmation anyway because that's what was expected of me. I was a 13-year-old child with little to no choice in the matter, just like many of many friends.
Exactly. A large number of people-- maybe even a majority-- wouldn't be part of any religion if it weren't for childhood indoctrination.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And, I am not Catholic, so explain to me--if you can go and confess sins at any time, why is not going to Mass such a big deal? Couldn't they not go to Mass and go in and confess the sin of not going and get it cleared somehow?
It's only a big deal if the person missing mass does not get to confession and communion soon after commiting the sin. This, unfortunately, is the case with catholics who drop out during college. If they eventually return to the faith -- meaning confessing their sins and going to mass regularly again - then they're OK.
But if they die in the interim (unlikely in the case of young people), they will go to hell because they have mortal sins on their soul for which they have not been forgiven.
If you skip mass one week & get hit by a bus & die before going to confession, you go to hell.
If you brutally murder 100s of people but go to confession & receive communion afterwards, you go to heaven.
Sounds fair.
What's fair about the Catholic church is that it teaches you what the rules are and then expects you to follow them. All catholics have also been taught what the punishments for not following the rule are. YOu can't receive the sacraments of communion and confirmation without specific instuction.
You realize that most people are 7 or 8 when they make their First Communion & 13 or 14 when they get confirmed, right? In most cases, they receive these sacrements because their parents expect them to, not because they themselves have carefully considered all the tenants of the Catholic faith & made the decision to vow to abide by them.Heck, by the time I made my Confirmation, I knew I disagreed with some of the church's teachings. I made my Confirmation anyway because that's what was expected of me. I was a 13-year-old child with little to no choice in the matter, just like many of many friends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep, she's hittin the Jesus juice pretty hard now. We are Christians but don't regularly attend church, if it matters.
You can do what you want. If you are Catholic, you know what the punishment is if you die with mortal sins on your soul.
Perhaps this is a large part of OP's concern -- not jsut that her kids don't have a "faith life" but that they are in danger of going to hell.