Anonymous
03/26/2016 11:48
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:I would be careful aligning myself with the Anglicans churches in Africa. Does this sound like the teachings of Jesus? Do you think gay people should be put in jail for being gay?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/03/uganda-anglican-church_n_4890603.html
Continuing Anglican churches aren't aligned with the ACNA - they predate it.
Anonymous
03/26/2016 09:28
Subject: Re:ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
PaleoConPrep wrote:I am a conservative Episcopalian.( I attend an Anglican Church, but I could be called Episcopalian) The Episcopal Church is in very bad shape. It is infected with radical Liberalism, congregations are aging, birth rates are very low, and membership is declining. However, this isn't the case with the conservative Episcopal congregations. I have many friends around the country who attend conservative Episcopal/Anglican churches, and their congregations are growing. They also have a good number of young people/families. There is only one good path the EC can take. They need to totally clean house, and go back to the old ways. ALL Liberal clergy need to be rebuked as heretics and defrocked. The seminaries need to be closed cleansed of Liberalism as well. Let the Liberals create their own denomination.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.
So, this is better? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014
Anonymous
03/26/2016 09:27
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
I would be careful aligning myself with the Anglicans churches in Africa. Does this sound like the teachings of Jesus? Do you think gay people should be put in jail for being gay?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/03/uganda-anglican-church_n_4890603.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/03/uganda-anglican-church_n_4890603.html
Anonymous
03/24/2016 14:16
Subject: Re:ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
PaleoConPrep wrote:I am a conservative Episcopalian.( I attend an Anglican Church, but I could be called Episcopalian) The Episcopal Church is in very bad shape. It is infected with radical Liberalism, congregations are aging, birth rates are very low, and membership is declining. However, this isn't the case with the conservative Episcopal congregations. I have many friends around the country who attend conservative Episcopal/Anglican churches, and their congregations are growing. They also have a good number of young people/families. There is only one good path the EC can take. They need to totally clean house, and go back to the old ways. ALL Liberal clergy need to be rebuked as heretics and defrocked. The seminaries need to be closed cleansed of Liberalism as well. Let the Liberals create their own denomination.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.
It seems you're talking about theology rather than the tired of same sex marriage argument, which is refreshing, I guess. I completely understand that people are going to have differences in opinion about that, but what I can't stand is the church's refusal to do anything to priests who question things like the Resurrection.
Anonymous
03/24/2016 14:15
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Episcopalians have a catechism? I thought that was only for Catholics.
Yes, they do. It's at the back of the BCP.
Anonymous
03/23/2016 12:16
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
My entire extended family is, so yes. I am the super liberal atheist in the family.
PaleoConPrep
03/16/2016 20:35
Subject: Re:ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
I am a conservative Episcopalian.( I attend an Anglican Church, but I could be called Episcopalian) The Episcopal Church is in very bad shape. It is infected with radical Liberalism, congregations are aging, birth rates are very low, and membership is declining. However, this isn't the case with the conservative Episcopal congregations. I have many friends around the country who attend conservative Episcopal/Anglican churches, and their congregations are growing. They also have a good number of young people/families. There is only one good path the EC can take. They need to totally clean house, and go back to the old ways. ALL Liberal clergy need to be rebuked as heretics and defrocked. The seminaries need to be closed cleansed of Liberalism as well. Let the Liberals create their own denomination.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.
Listen to this
http://issuesetc.org/2016/01/15/3-the-anglican-communion-sanctions-the-us-episcopal-church-george-conger-11516/
It will give you a good idea of the state of the Anglican communion and the Episcopal Church.
Anonymous
03/16/2016 20:15
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Episcopalians have a catechism? I thought that was only for Catholics.
Anonymous
03/16/2016 14:00
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.
Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?
Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.
My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.
NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?
Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?
Are you Episcopalian?
Having attended Episcopalian churches for many years, I know that they are not stuck in the 1st century the way many Catholics and fundamentalists are.
You didn't actually answer the question. Perhaps you should check the catechism.
Anonymous
03/15/2016 20:14
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.
Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?
Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.
My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.
NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?
Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?
Are you Episcopalian?
Having attended Episcopalian churches for many years, I know that they are not stuck in the 1st century the way many Catholics and fundamentalists are.
Anonymous
03/14/2016 17:08
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.
Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?
Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.
My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.
NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?
Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?
Are you Episcopalian?
Anonymous
03/14/2016 15:21
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:^^ 15:51 said this "Actually the "worldwide" community of Anglicans who opposed gay marriage was mostly the churches in developing countries, especially Africa. Much as I respect 3rd world perspectives on many issues, gay rights isn't one of them."
and she's wrong because the vote disciplining the U.S. Epis. church was done by Primates from around the world under the direction of the Archbishop of Canterbury (also white).
Primates take orders from the Archbishop of Canterbury?
Anonymous
03/14/2016 13:56
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
^^ 15:51 said this "Actually the "worldwide" community of Anglicans who opposed gay marriage was mostly the churches in developing countries, especially Africa. Much as I respect 3rd world perspectives on many issues, gay rights isn't one of them."
and she's wrong because the vote disciplining the U.S. Epis. church was done by Primates from around the world under the direction of the Archbishop of Canterbury (also white).
and she's wrong because the vote disciplining the U.S. Epis. church was done by Primates from around the world under the direction of the Archbishop of Canterbury (also white).
Anonymous
03/09/2016 20:55
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.
Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?
Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.
My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.
NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?
Who says Paul's words are inspired by the holy spirit? And even if they are, so what? Does that mean in the 21st century we have to abide by the hopy spirit's wishes from the 1st century?
Anonymous
03/09/2016 16:40
Subject: ok to be a conservative Episcopalian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Jesus never spoke about homosexuality let alone gay marriage. Paul did, but Paul wasn't Jesus. Not that I'm gay, but I do think it's time to recognize LGBT marriages.
Wrong again. Read and learn before posting. The Primates voted. The Archbishop of Canterbury. White men in robes. Get it?
Yikes. Let me help you. Here's the point. In every culture, people interpret laws and religion in light of their own values. But for somebody who goes directly to Jesus' words, the ban on homosexuality isn't a foregone conclusion.
My white man in a robe (Episcopal priest) is actually gay himself. There are many in the DC area.
NP (actually OP, but new to this argument). If you consider Paul's words inspired by the Holy Spirit, why immediately disregard them?