Anonymous wrote:Its a whole different world to have abusive siblings and family. Niether side can really understand the other. Normal family people/ abusive family people. My mother used to pick out dirty used clothes from a thrift shop especially for me at Christmas. Just me. Imagine opening that up on Christmas Day in front of everyone else who had regular presents. That is just one event. She had an abusive situation growing up and never could get past it -- even on her death bed she rose up and spewed out hate. It is difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.[/b]

[b]No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

Wrong on both accounts. Some of us have simply been caught up in the aftermath of this childishness and seen whole families destroyed.

No, then you've clearly never had a sibling like many of us have had. Or you think people should just put up with abuse, hostility, and toxicity? There's no need to make a big dramatic break. But sometimes it's also the extended family who builds unnecessary drama with this "destroyed" business.

Count your blessings. You never know what others have dealt with.

Wrong again...

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Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.[/b]

[b]No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

Wrong on both accounts. Some of us have simply been caught up in the aftermath of this childishness and seen whole families destroyed.

No, then you've clearly never had a sibling like many of us have had. Or you think people should just put up with abuse, hostility, and toxicity? There's no need to make a big dramatic break. But sometimes it's also the extended family who builds unnecessary drama with this "destroyed" business.

Count your blessings. You never know what others have dealt with.

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Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.[/b]

[b]No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

Wrong on both accounts. Some of us have simply been caught up in the aftermath of this childishness and seen whole families destroyed.

Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.[/b]

[b]No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

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Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.

No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

Well, harassment and regular repeated *abuse* is probably grounds to cut someone off. Being jealous/annoyed because Suzy always gets her way and acts perfect all the time is understandable but not worth Da-Da-Dum "Cutting her OFF!". One is a prudent the other dramatic.

Anonymous wrote:The dissenters either (1) have never had an emotionally volatile sibling, or (2) are themselves the emotionally volatile sibling.

No one's talking about cutting out a sibling over few and far between misunderstandings or an isolated instance of unkindness.

But repeated & constant unkindness, manipulation, anger, lying, harassment, disrespect for boundaries, and other forms of regular repeated abuse is absolutely a valid reason for either distancing or completely cutting off a sibling.

I cut out a brother a few years ago. It breaks my heart not to have a relationship with his kids, but at the same time he's used his kids as an emotional chess piece in our own sibling-relationship. It's not fair to his kids, and it's not fair to myself. There is no option that is ideal but I feel 150% confident that I made the best one possible by having zero-to-no relationship with my brother anymore.

It's just what it is with the cards we're dealing with.

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Anonymous wrote:Grow the fuck up. My sister did precisely what you are proposing with my two brothers. It blew the whole fucking family up. Nieces and nephews no longer have aunts and uncles, siblings no longer talk to one another, children have taken sides against their parents. Adults do not behave this way. She didn't even have to have any contact with them. This formal declaration was more about her childishness than it was about my brothers' admittedly bad behavior. When dealing with family it isn't all about you. Your actions have tentacles that reach to everyone else. Every time I see one of these posts, I can't help but think did you people never move beyond middle school emotionally?

You sound very angry at an internet stranger, can't imagine what it's like to have you in the family. Each of us has the right to live a joyous and peaceful life, and we are first and foremost responsible to ourselves, then others. Maintaining unhealthy relationships, out of a sense of duty, is self-abuse. I don't agree with OP's approach and don't know the dynamics of the relationship. My suggestion is putting some distance and OP working on herself and stop focusing so much on what her sister is doing.

I am very angry. I have seen the devastation left in the wake of these "declarations." There are mature ways to deal with a users that don't result in destroying families.

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Anonymous wrote:Grow the fuck up. My sister did precisely what you are proposing with my two brothers. It blew the whole fucking family up. Nieces and nephews no longer have aunts and uncles, siblings no longer talk to one another, children have taken sides against their parents. Adults do not behave this way. She didn't even have to have any contact with them. This formal declaration was more about her childishness than it was about my brothers' admittedly bad behavior. When dealing with family it isn't all about you. Your actions have tentacles that reach to everyone else. Every time I see one of these posts, I can't help but think did you people never move beyond middle school emotionally?

You sound very angry at an internet stranger, can't imagine what it's like to have you in the family. Each of us has the right to live a joyous and peaceful life, and we are first and foremost responsible to ourselves, then others. Maintaining unhealthy relationships, out of a sense of duty, is self-abuse. I don't agree with OP's approach and don't know the dynamics of the relationship. My suggestion is putting some distance and OP working on herself and stop focusing so much on what her sister is doing.

I am very angry. I have seen the devastation left in the wake of these "declarations." There are mature ways to deal with a users that don't result in destroying families.