Anonymous
12/28/2015 15:04
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Oh for the love of...no it is people who refuse to be bound by this ridiculousness.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I get that the fines seem extreme but, really, is it that hard to address someone how they wish to be addressed? Is it any skin off your nose? It may seem silly to some but... So what?
NP here. This.
This isn't about bumping into someone on the street and accidentally saying "excuse me, sir" instead of "excuse me, madam" or something.
This is so that people can't be harassed at work and stuff.
OP wants to histrionically and irrationally pretend this is a bad thing and it's not. In my experience, the people who are the most against this sort of thing are the people who internally feel a lot of anguish about their own gender identity but felt they didn't have a choice but to pretend to be straight for life. Then they police others' gender identities and rail against any progress in society that would allow others the fluidity they felt they were denied.
OP, it's not too late to reach out to someone to get help for yourself.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 15:01
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
+1 It is beyond ridiculous.Anonymous wrote:I'm as liberal as they come and I think this is mind-bogglingly ridiculous.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 14:57
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
you mean the legislatures and the courts?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to be called "the glorious most high" so do I get a law for that?
No. I would encourage discrimination against you for that. "Glorious most high" is not a class in need of protection. Kind of like smokers.
Let's consult the Grand Puba of Social Justice to determine which groups are "deserving of protection" and which aren't...
Anonymous
12/28/2015 14:06
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to be called "the glorious most high" so do I get a law for that?
No. I would encourage discrimination against you for that. "Glorious most high" is not a class in need of protection. Kind of like smokers.
Let's consult the Grand Puba of Social Justice to determine which groups are "deserving of protection" and which aren't...
Anonymous
12/28/2015 13:18
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:I want to be called "the glorious most high" so do I get a law for that?
No. I would encourage discrimination against you for that. "Glorious most high" is not a class in need of protection. Kind of like smokers.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 13:18
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:
It is when they've expressed a preference to called something else, yes. It's belligerence and nasty. Yes. It makes you a bad person to not respect someone's wishes. Who the hell are you to argue with people like that? Your mother raised you wrong.
How is that nasty? If they are a man, it is what it is. I fail to see how that is mean, nasty, "belligerence", etc if I call a duck a duck. Just because they do not like it? And there should be laws and penalties to protect these people from my first amendment right to say whatever the hell I want?
Anonymous
12/28/2015 13:13
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP, that's just it. You don't get to choose what and how to address this person. You must address him or her by the noun or pronoun they choose. Not your choice.
Hilarious. I'm with the other poster, time to move to the middle of nowhere and get away from people like this. How in the world do you actually believe this drivel?
We would like for you to move, too. Please get on with that, since all you evidently have to contribute to society is nastiness and negativity. Be gone with you. Thanks.
So calling a guy who was born with a penis and is in fact a man, "he" is nastiness and negativity"? Please explain that to me.
It is when they've expressed a preference to called something else, yes. It's belligerence and nasty. Yes. It makes you a bad person to not respect someone's wishes. Who the hell are you to argue with people like that? Your mother raised you wrong.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 13:03
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
I want to be called "the glorious most high" so do I get a law for that?
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:57
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:I'm as liberal as they come and I think this is mind-bogglingly ridiculous.
I agree. The language will evolve with time. The fines are unsupportable.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:37
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP, that's just it. You don't get to choose what and how to address this person. You must address him or her by the noun or pronoun they choose. Not your choice.
Hilarious. I'm with the other poster, time to move to the middle of nowhere and get away from people like this. How in the world do you actually believe this drivel?
We would like for you to move, too. Please get on with that, since all you evidently have to contribute to society is nastiness and negativity. Be gone with you. Thanks.
So calling a guy who was born with a penis and is in fact a man, "he" is nastiness and negativity"? Please explain that to me.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:35
Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:This transgender stuff confuses the hell out of me. I work in an ER and I really need to know whether patients are anatomically males or females for some complaints (like lower abdominal pain). The last transgender patient I saw said "I don't want to discuss that" when I asked whether she had genital reconstructive surgery yet. Um ok. Well, how am I supposed to know if I have to do a pelvic exam or not. Or a preg test. Or a transvaginal ultrasound.
You aren't allowed to ask those questions, might hurt their feelings....
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:34
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP, that's just it. You don't get to choose what and how to address this person. You must address him or her by the noun or pronoun they choose. Not your choice.
Hilarious. I'm with the other poster, time to move to the middle of nowhere and get away from people like this. How in the world do you actually believe this drivel?
We would like for you to move, too. Please get on with that, since all you evidently have to contribute to society is nastiness and negativity. Be gone with you. Thanks.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:33
Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
This transgender stuff confuses the hell out of me. I work in an ER and I really need to know whether patients are anatomically males or females for some complaints (like lower abdominal pain). The last transgender patient I saw said "I don't want to discuss that" when I asked whether she had genital reconstructive surgery yet. Um ok. Well, how am I supposed to know if I have to do a pelvic exam or not. Or a preg test. Or a transvaginal ultrasound.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:31
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP, that's just it. You don't get to choose what and how to address this person. You must address him or her by the noun or pronoun they choose. Not your choice.
Hilarious. I'm with the other poster, time to move to the middle of nowhere and get away from people like this. How in the world do you actually believe this drivel?
Me three. I call dibs on this lot: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Nhn-Pishkun-(S-Bellview)-Rd-Choteau-MT-59422/2102732308_zpid/
You guys can come visit if you want but, warning, I'll call you whatever pronoun I want.
Anonymous
12/28/2015 12:27
Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine
Anonymous wrote:So glad I don't live in NY.
I'm glad you don't live in NY too. Stay in flyover country where you belong.