Anonymous wrote:I absolutely want to scream in frustration with all of the holier than thou limousine liberals that think that just because Langley district parents want to ALSO get some benefit from their high property taxes (relative to the remainder of FCPS) they are incessantly demonized for that sentiment. I am fine with a meals tax or whatever it will take to help schools out of this budget crisis hole but to keep saying that Cluster 1 schools should suffer with the highest class sizes because Janie thinks we are all "wealthy" and can cover any gaps with our children's education. Despicable.

Feel free to vent, but recognize that it is not just "limousine liberals" who are tired of listening to the wealthy Langley parents whine and try to portray themselves as victims.

I absolutely want to scream in frustration with all of the holier than thou limousine liberals that think that just because Langley district parents want to ALSO get some benefit from their high property taxes (relative to the remainder of FCPS) they are incessantly demonized for that sentiment. I am fine with a meals tax or whatever it will take to help schools out of this budget crisis hole but to keep saying that Cluster 1 schools should suffer with the highest class sizes because Janie thinks we are all "wealthy" and can cover any gaps with our children's education. Despicable.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though its has been on the books for at least 15 years, one poster loves to point out Langley's current renovation as some sign of excess or rich-stealing-from-the-poors scenario. It's ridiculous and tiresome.

No, it's the rich getting treated like others, but still complaining that they aren't getting their fair share anyway. Now that's ridiculous and tiresome.

Oh, you mean having the largest class sizes in the county is being treated just like everyone else? Gotcha.

Which part of needs-based staffing do you not understand? When Langley has the same percentage of high-needs students as Annandale or Lee, then maybe you'd actually have something to complain about if the class sizes were still larger.

Other people in Dranesville and the rest of the county understand this, even if you profess not to. You can keep voting for candidates whose message does not resonate with most county residents, but it's not going to get you much in return. The Langley areas have become largely irrelevant to the outcome of local, state and national elections.

Oh my. That's some wishful thinking you've got there. Not to mention a huge chip on your shoulder.

They helped elect Comstock but otherwise it's true that Langley neighborhoods tend to vote for losing candidates.

I think the main issue with Langley is that there just aren't that many people living there compared to other districts.

^^I see what you did there. Bravo. And so subtle.

Anonymous wrote:My experiences with Janie Strauss have been limited but quite positive. A while back I noticed that some of the staff's enrollment projections in our pyramid were off and that staff seemed to be teeing up the possibility of an unnecessary redistricting. I pointed this out to her and she suggested we meet in person to go over the relevant data. She subsequently asked FCPS staff to change its discussion of potential redistrictings in the CIP. When we spoke, it seemed like she cared about all the kids in Dranesville and not playing favorites.

I have met Janie a couple of times during the responses to the suicides at Langley. I have also heard her speak multiple times. She is very engaged and understands the issues.

She is so much better than the Comstock, McDonnell republican types that cannot be trusted.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though its has been on the books for at least 15 years, one poster loves to point out Langley's current renovation as some sign of excess or rich-stealing-from-the-poors scenario. It's ridiculous and tiresome.

No, it's the rich getting treated like others, but still complaining that they aren't getting their fair share anyway. Now that's ridiculous and tiresome.

Oh, you mean having the largest class sizes in the county is being treated just like everyone else? Gotcha.

Which part of needs-based staffing do you not understand? When Langley has the same percentage of high-needs students as Annandale or Lee, then maybe you'd actually have something to complain about if the class sizes were still larger.

Other people in Dranesville and the rest of the county understand this, even if you profess not to. You can keep voting for candidates whose message does not resonate with most county residents, but it's not going to get you much in return. The Langley areas have become largely irrelevant to the outcome of local, state and national elections.

Oh my. That's some wishful thinking you've got there. Not to mention a huge chip on your shoulder.

They helped elect Comstock but otherwise it's true that Langley neighborhoods tend to vote for losing candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is McLean HS in such awful shape? Will it be getting a renovation? I went there for the first time recently and was quite surprised at its condition.

McLean HS was recently renovated and looked great alast time I saw it.

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Really!? My bad, then. I was just struck by how old the bathrooms look. And the auditorium seems tiny and there is no leg space between rows -- most high schoolers are taller than I am. Marshall's auditorium is gorgeous.

Poorer schools get more than their fair share. That way it's fair.

McLean is about 10 years old than Marshall and Langley and was renovated in 2005. It looks pretty good, but the recent high school renovations seem to be more extensive, whether it's Marshall, Woodson or Edison. Langley will look just as good as Marshall, and better than McLean, when they are done.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is McLean HS in such awful shape? Will it be getting a renovation? I went there for the first time recently and was quite surprised at its condition.

McLean HS was recently renovated and looked great alast time I saw it.

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Really!? My bad, then. I was just struck by how old the bathrooms look. And the auditorium seems tiny and there is no leg space between rows -- most high schoolers are taller than I am. Marshall's auditorium is gorgeous.

Poorer schools get more than their fair share. That way it's fair.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is McLean HS in such awful shape? Will it be getting a renovation? I went there for the first time recently and was quite surprised at its condition.

McLean HS was recently renovated and looked great alast time I saw it.

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Really!? My bad, then. I was just struck by how old the bathrooms look. And the auditorium seems tiny and there is no leg space between rows -- most high schoolers are taller than I am. Marshall's auditorium is gorgeous.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, every 40 years Langley gets spruced up whether it needs it or not. The rich: ugh.

Really hope this is a facetious remark. Have you seen the state of Langley H.S.? If any school was due for renovation it was this one.

Oh man, so true. What a dump. Unfortunately both kids will pass through and be gone just as the new school will be finished. I cringed walking the halls to vote - what a mess, especially now with the construction going on . It's depressing.

I don't see why it would be depressing to walk through the halls of a school receiving a $78 million renovation, knowing that a county was investing in my school. I'd be depressed if I were walking around an older school that likely would never get renovated.

You do realize that all schools will be renovated eventually? Langley had to wait its turn and so does everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, every 40 years Langley gets spruced up whether it needs it or not. The rich: ugh.

Really hope this is a facetious remark. Have you seen the state of Langley H.S.? If any school was due for renovation it was this one.

Oh man, so true. What a dump. Unfortunately both kids will pass through and be gone just as the new school will be finished. I cringed walking the halls to vote - what a mess, especially now with the construction going on . It's depressing.

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Mine is currently there and won't get to see the finished school before she graduates. At least the renovations aren't affecting the quality of the education, which is still excellent.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though its has been on the books for at least 15 years, one poster loves to point out Langley's current renovation as some sign of excess or rich-stealing-from-the-poors scenario. It's ridiculous and tiresome.

No, it's the rich getting treated like others, but still complaining that they aren't getting their fair share anyway. Now that's ridiculous and tiresome.

Oh, you mean having the largest class sizes in the county is being treated just like everyone else? Gotcha.

Which part of needs-based staffing do you not understand? When Langley has the same percentage of high-needs students as Annandale or Lee, then maybe you'd actually have something to complain about if the class sizes were still larger.

Other people in Dranesville and the rest of the county understand this, even if you profess not to. You can keep voting for candidates whose message does not resonate with most county residents, but it's not going to get you much in return. The Langley areas have become largely irrelevant to the outcome of local, state and national elections.

Oh my. That's some wishful thinking you've got there. Not to mention a huge chip on your shoulder.

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Anonymous wrote:"Add more diversity" to Langley? I assume you mean non-white, non-Asian? What kind of powers might the school board have to make that happen?

If the School Board could find ways to justify sending white kids in Great Falls near the Loudoun border to Langley, they can find ways to boost the ESOL and FARMS rates there, too. Just look at the map.

It would be a good reality check for the people there who don't seem to realize that they live in a bubble of privilege of how jarring it is when they claim that they are not getting their fair share.

The boundary for Langley and Herndon used to be Spring Vale rd. Zoom on the maps to see the streets and school locations: http://www.fcps.edu/images/boundarymaps/langleyhs.pdf http://www.fcps.edu/images/boundarymaps/herndonhs.pdf
Parts of north Reston went to Forestville before Aldrin was built. Unfortunately in the 1960's FCPS built Langley at it's current location. Based on geography, location of construction since 1990, and where people actually live it does not make sense to have done/do any capacity expansion at the Langley site.

Simply ridiculous. Various redistrictings for including Herndon, South Lakes, etc all the way down to Westfields should have included portions of the Langley attendance area.
There are some ludicrous boundaries even for elementary schools.

Who ever the PP's are suggesting look at maps they obviously have not done map exercises. People would and have fought to stay in herndon and won't vacate willingly.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, every 40 years Langley gets spruced up whether it needs it or not. The rich: ugh.

Really hope this is a facetious remark. Have you seen the state of Langley H.S.? If any school was due for renovation it was this one.

Oh man, so true. What a dump. Unfortunately both kids will pass through and be gone just as the new school will be finished. I cringed walking the halls to vote - what a mess, especially now with the construction going on . It's depressing.

(1) I don't see why it would be depressing to walk through the halls of a school receiving a $78 million renovation, knowing that a county was investing in my school. (2) I'd be depressed if I were walking around an older school that likely would never get renovated.

People wil argue about anything. I'm not the pp here, but she's just making a small, valid point.
1) It's not fun when your kids suffer through the drag of the renovations but see none of its benefits.
2) If this were the case, you wouldn't be walking in a VA high school.

Anonymous wrote:LHS: largest class sizes and smallest square footage per student of any Fairfax County HS.

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Wrong. According to the Capacity Dashboard, Langley had the fourth smallest SF per student last year (and this will change after the expansion/renovation).