Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 17:16     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.


Bullshit! If you spent your entire career putting dangerous murders, rapists, gang members in prison, (while risking your own life) you are very likely to run into one in person someday; they all get out of prison eventually.

What would you do if a guy you put away and a few of his friends recognizes you, and they decide they are going to cut you or rough you up as payback for the 20'years hard time? What if they decide to rape your wife & make you watch?

Luckily, our lawmakers are not so heartless or un-thinking as you PP


Or a Rambo like you. What histrionics. Republicans live their lives in such fear. It's sad.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 17:10     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.


Bullshit! If you spent your entire career putting dangerous murders, rapists, gang members in prison, (while risking your own life) you are very likely to run into one in person someday; they all get out of prison eventually.

What would you do if a guy you put away and a few of his friends recognizes you, and they decide they are going to cut you or rough you up as payback for the 20'years hard time? What if they decide to rape your wife & make you watch?

Luckily, our lawmakers are not so heartless or un-thinking as you PP


OMG you watch too much television.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 15:42     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.


Bullshit! If you spent your entire career putting dangerous murders, rapists, gang members in prison, (while risking your own life) you are very likely to run into one in person someday; they all get out of prison eventually.

What would you do if a guy you put away and a few of his friends recognizes you, and they decide they are going to cut you or rough you up as payback for the 20'years hard time? What if they decide to rape your wife & make you watch?

Luckily, our lawmakers are not so heartless or un-thinking as you PP


I'm not sure which version you saw, the 1962 one with Robert Mitchum or the 1991 remake with Robert DeNiro, but the movie "Cape Fear" in which a convicted rapist named Max Cady gets out of prison and seeks vengeance against his former public defender...
Yeah, that's not a biopic...it's fictional and so is every other Hollywood film about ex-cons out for revenge on the cops that brought them down or the lawyers that put them away.
You shouldn't believe everything you see in the movies and on TV. Now if you can find any actual news accounts of such events occurring I'll be more than eager to hear about them, but if you're basing your claim that ex-cops need to carry because ex-cons are out to get them solely on movies then lawmakers aren't the only ones who are "un-thinking".
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 15:05     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.


Bullshit! If you spent your entire career putting dangerous murders, rapists, gang members in prison, (while risking your own life) you are very likely to run into one in person someday; they all get out of prison eventually.

What would you do if a guy you put away and a few of his friends recognizes you, and they decide they are going to cut you or rough you up as payback for the 20'years hard time? What if they decide to rape your wife & make you watch?

Luckily, our lawmakers are not so heartless or un-thinking as you PP
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 14:22     Subject: The Concealed Carry Fantasy
I would not feel safe with some random dude carrying a gun.

And I'm saying that as someone who is a gun owner and hunter, who came from a military family, and who has military marksman training.

There are far too many clueless and reckless gun owners out there. I see them all the time.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 14:21     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:Why not?


You asked them to describe their feelings if they knew your sniper husband was carrying. They gave you an honest answer. And so instead of acknowledging that their feelings are theirs to decide, you responded with:

"First of it is concealed, so you would not have to freak out." --irrelevant as you asked how they would feel *if* they knew, plus "freaking out" is not how they responded.

"Why don't you stop sitting on your hands and educate yourself. " -- called them uneducated, for having the courtesy to answer your question.

You probably also think the government infringes on your first amendment rights....." -- tell them what they are thinking. Good strategy for getting someone to cooperate with you!

So now that you have insulted them three different ways, you want to ask a series of questions designed to reveal their illogic. And then you berate them for not responding! Guess what, no one is going to answer you after that display.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 13:54     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Why not?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 13:10     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Recently, my husband and I went to a movie. It was a packed theatre. My husband is a former sniper and....FOR SURE....he was carrying. If you had knew he was in the audience that day would you have felt safe or nervous?


If you're expecting a show of hands from those who, in light of recent shootings at movie theaters, would be thrilled to know that your husband was there to protect them I'm sure you'll get a few - but I ain't raising my hand.
At least 20% of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have PTSD and/or depression so no, the thought of your former sniper husband sitting there going through who knows what in his life with who knows what running through his mind and putting his emotions on edge isn't comforting nor would it have made me feel safe. Nah - knowing he was in the audience I'd have left immediately.


First of it is concealed, so you would not have to freak out. Personally, I would not trust a uniformed officer with a gun. Why don't you stop sitting on your hands and educate yourself. You probably also think the government infringes on your first amendment rights.....so how do you propose we vet gun ownership? Should the government be able to check your medical records for mental health issues if you choose to purchase a gun or happen to buy the ingredients for bomb making?
Do you trust ANYONE with a gun?


You did not answer the questions.


See the comment just above your original one to answer some of your questions.


You did not answer the questions.


Hey grand inquisitor, you asked your first question and the pp answered it. Now you want to follow up. Guess what, you don't get to keep peppering them with more questions when you don't like the answer to your first one.

Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:47     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Recently, my husband and I went to a movie. It was a packed theatre. My husband is a former sniper and....FOR SURE....he was carrying. If you had knew he was in the audience that day would you have felt safe or nervous?


If you're expecting a show of hands from those who, in light of recent shootings at movie theaters, would be thrilled to know that your husband was there to protect them I'm sure you'll get a few - but I ain't raising my hand.
At least 20% of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have PTSD and/or depression so no, the thought of your former sniper husband sitting there going through who knows what in his life with who knows what running through his mind and putting his emotions on edge isn't comforting nor would it have made me feel safe. Nah - knowing he was in the audience I'd have left immediately.


First of it is concealed, so you would not have to freak out. Personally, I would not trust a uniformed officer with a gun. Why don't you stop sitting on your hands and educate yourself. You probably also think the government infringes on your first amendment rights.....so how do you propose we vet gun ownership? Should the government be able to check your medical records for mental health issues if you choose to purchase a gun or happen to buy the ingredients for bomb making?
Do you trust ANYONE with a gun?


You did not answer the questions.


See the comment just above your original one to answer some of your questions.


You did not answer the questions.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:46     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Recently, my husband and I went to a movie. It was a packed theatre. My husband is a former sniper and....FOR SURE....he was carrying. If you had knew he was in the audience that day would you have felt safe or nervous?


If you're expecting a show of hands from those who, in light of recent shootings at movie theaters, would be thrilled to know that your husband was there to protect them I'm sure you'll get a few - but I ain't raising my hand.
At least 20% of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have PTSD and/or depression so no, the thought of your former sniper husband sitting there going through who knows what in his life with who knows what running through his mind and putting his emotions on edge isn't comforting nor would it have made me feel safe. Nah - knowing he was in the audience I'd have left immediately.


First of it is concealed, so you would not have to freak out. Personally, I would not trust a uniformed officer with a gun. Why don't you stop sitting on your hands and educate yourself. You probably also think the government infringes on your first amendment rights.....so how do you propose we vet gun ownership? Should the government be able to check your medical records for mental health issues if you choose to purchase a gun or happen to buy the ingredients for bomb making?
Do you trust ANYONE with a gun?


You did not answer the questions.


See the comment just above your original one to answer some of your questions.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:45     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
lets talk about keeping guns out of the bad guys hands and not how to keep then out of the good guys hands.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:16     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.


Agreed. Retired means you no longer have the badge and keep the gun safely at home. You don't get to flaunt it in public.

Unfortunately, many retired cops and soldiers are bored and miss the adulation that comes with being a "hero." Despite the fact that their training has lapsed, their instincts are not as sharp, and their mental agility has slowed.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:03     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
If you are retired you have no need to carry a gun around anymore, at least not any more than every other Joe Schmoe...whether you're a ex-sniper or an ex-cop.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 11:02     Subject: The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:I would agree with your analysis if we were talking about hiring someone to do a job. The question was whether you feel safe or unsafe when others around you are carrying firearms. The fact that someone is currently receiving a W2 for employment that typically requires carrying a gun seems like a weak justification. Do you feel unsafe if a retired police officer is carrying a gun?


NP....yes I would feel unsafe if a retired police officer was carrying. I really don't think you need any more proof than this as to why it can be a bad idea. This guy was a retired police captain. He shot and killed the guy because he got angry that he was TEXTING. No thanks, if they took all firearms from retired police/servicemen I would be 100% ok with that.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fla-man-charged-fatal-movie-theatre-shooting-released-bail-article-1.1864106
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2015 10:50     Subject: Re:The Concealed Carry Fantasy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Recently, my husband and I went to a movie. It was a packed theatre. My husband is a former sniper and....FOR SURE....he was carrying. If you had knew he was in the audience that day would you have felt safe or nervous?


If you're expecting a show of hands from those who, in light of recent shootings at movie theaters, would be thrilled to know that your husband was there to protect them I'm sure you'll get a few - but I ain't raising my hand.
At least 20% of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have PTSD and/or depression so no, the thought of your former sniper husband sitting there going through who knows what in his life with who knows what running through his mind and putting his emotions on edge isn't comforting nor would it have made me feel safe. Nah - knowing he was in the audience I'd have left immediately.


First of it is concealed, so you would not have to freak out. Personally, I would not trust a uniformed officer with a gun. Why don't you stop sitting on your hands and educate yourself. You probably also think the government infringes on your first amendment rights.....so how do you propose we vet gun ownership? Should the government be able to check your medical records for mental health issues if you choose to purchase a gun or happen to buy the ingredients for bomb making?
Do you trust ANYONE with a gun?


See the comment just above your original one to answer some of your questions.