Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:46
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
You're making no sense. You can't end a "life" of something if it is completely unable to exist at all without being totally physically dependent on you. It is not alive in the first place.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:41
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
That argument used as a pro-choice argument is flawed then now isn't it? If you would have made a good choice to begin with, you wouldn't have to end a life to rectify yourself.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:31
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Who is going to take care of that dignity after birth? The Republicans?
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:30
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Uh, this is one of the major arguments in support of abortion rights. Taking charge of your body, and not bringing a child into this world if you are unable to take care of it.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:30
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I experienced the opposite. I'm still pro-choice but I used to think the fetus was just a clump of cells for much longer. It was shocking to me when I saw my 8 week old fetus flapping its limbs.
Shocks me too since it didn't happen.
Have you ever had an ultrasound at 8 weeks? You don't seem too bright.
http://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-8-weeks_1097.bc
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:29
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
The opposite happened for me. I was very pro-choice before having a child and now feel very conflicted. Now that I have a child, I feel sick when I think about abortions. However, I still think I am pro-choice because I feel that people are free to make decisions that feel right to them and are best for their situation, so who are we to decide for others based on our own beliefs. With that said, after having a child I could never have an abortion.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:29
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I experienced the opposite. I'm still pro-choice but I used to think the fetus was just a clump of cells for much longer. It was shocking to me when I saw my 8 week old fetus flapping its limbs.
Be still my maternal heart! Webbed hands and feet and a tail?
It's the size of a kidney bean at that point. I could see movement, but could pick out nothing in particular. Which OB do you see that you got that high of an ultrasound to see limb buds that were a quarter inch long?
I was being monitored by an RE.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:28
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
I have turned pro-life. Everyone has dignity that is distinctly theirs, including an unborn human. As mothers, it is our duty to help maintain this dignity. It is not our choice to allow this dignity or not. I am for responsibility. Take charge of your body and choices and don't procreate if you don't have the means to take care of it.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:23
Subject: Re:is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Absolutely more pro-choice. Now that I understand the physical and especially mental toll pregnancy, childbirth and the postpartum period can take on a woman, I can bring myself even less to force women to go through that against their will.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:20
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
More pro-choice. I'd support abortion over adoption in many situations. We adopted and we will not do it again. There is so much corruption and horrific things that happen with many "adoptive" parents strictly caring about their needs only that its nothing I can support. (even though there are some like us who honor all promises and really work at it for our child's sake - there are far fewer people like us than those with the rescue complex)
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:17
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:I experienced the opposite. I'm still pro-choice but I used to think the fetus was just a clump of cells for much longer. It was shocking to me when I saw my 8 week old fetus flapping its limbs.
You're funny.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:10
Subject: Re:is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm more pro-choice than ever. Labor and delivery is dangerous, even in a 1st world, modern hospital with all the bells and whistles. People die in childbirth, even in the US. (I almost did.)
Nobody should have the right to force someone into taking that risk on against her will. It's HER life that is on the line, and even the most low risk, healthy pregnancy can wrong at the last minute. Mine did.
Forcing a woman into carrying a child against her will is a kind of slavery. You are forcing her to submit her body and her life to the needs of other people. No. Just no.
+1 More pro-choice than ever
+2
+3. I had complications in my pregnancy and it was so, so terrifying. I could not imagine dealing with those issues without support from a spouse, family, or without money. It would take a situation that was already terrifying and make it life-ruining. I would almost never have an abortion, but I would never take that choice away from another woman. Having a baby is just too, too scary.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:02
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was always pro-choice but mainly for extreme circumstances (rape, mother in danger etc) but knew you can't really separate the issue so always called myself pro choice. However since having kids I am now VERY pro choice in a way that I never would of expected. The fact is this shit is HARD and I have education, money, a supportive community, and access to good healthcare. I can't imagine how hard it is for impoverished teenagers or single parents who already have a few kids or really any un ideal circumstance. Adoption isn't perfect either and I think the "adoption bandaid" is used in theory too frequently. Now as a parent I realized that I really wouldn't want my own teenager to have to carry a pregnancy and delivery and then give up the baby...it just seems like way too much to emotionally endure as a child herself. I keep these feelings to myself because I feel they would come off as inhumane and shouldn't parenting make you more pro life? I kind of wonder if something is wrong with me. For the record I love being a parent and am happy with my life but its just a strange change of views I have experienced and was curious if anyone else has as well?
Well, gee. Then why don't you teach her not to have sex before she's ready to be a parent?
Adoption isn't "perfect" either? So that's your easy out? Depends on which party you ask, I suppose. For the to-be-murdered fetus, it probably looks pretty damned perfect, compared to the alternative.
What, do you think only non-married, childless people have abortions? LOL.
Keep on slut-shaming, it only makes you look more crazy and naive.
+1
Most women who have an abortion already have children.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:01
Subject: Re:is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:OP, in my case, your subject line is spot on. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. I"m just sorry that it took me seeing my own kids on ultrasound at just a few weeks past conception, before I came to my senses on that point.
I doubt that you have ever been anything other than strongly anti-choice.
Seriously, which OB are you people seeing and what level of ultrasound are they using? I had my second last year and at 6-8 weeks, you couldn't make out much of anything. I had repeated ultrasounds to check bleeding.
Anonymous
10/14/2015 10:00
Subject: is anyone more pro-life since becoming a parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was always pro-choice but mainly for extreme circumstances (rape, mother in danger etc) but knew you can't really separate the issue so always called myself pro choice. However since having kids I am now VERY pro choice in a way that I never would of expected. The fact is this shit is HARD and I have education, money, a supportive community, and access to good healthcare. I can't imagine how hard it is for impoverished teenagers or single parents who already have a few kids or really any un ideal circumstance. Adoption isn't perfect either and I think the "adoption bandaid" is used in theory too frequently. Now as a parent I realized that I really wouldn't want my own teenager to have to carry a pregnancy and delivery and then give up the baby...it just seems like way too much to emotionally endure as a child herself. I keep these feelings to myself because I feel they would come off as inhumane and shouldn't parenting make you more pro life? I kind of wonder if something is wrong with me. For the record I love being a parent and am happy with my life but its just a strange change of views I have experienced and was curious if anyone else has as well?
Well, gee. Then why don't you teach her not to have sex before she's ready to be a parent?
Adoption isn't "perfect" either? So that's your easy out? Depends on which party you ask, I suppose. For the to-be-murdered fetus, it probably looks pretty damned perfect, compared to the alternative.
What, do you think only non-married, childless people have abortions? LOL.
Keep on slut-shaming, it only makes you look more crazy and naive.